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 Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! November 30, 2005 Where are the Americans?By GreyhawkFirst watch the video. The folks at moveon.org could be taken seriously about supporting the troops - if anyone in the group even knew what one looked like. Best of the Web posted an email from an army captain who busted the phonies yesterday. Here's the screen shot from the moveon ad:  As the captain noted, these guys are in British uniforms. He also pointed out the guy in shorts, noting that's not part of the US uniform. Actually, a GI could have a pair of shorts (though PT gear is the only authorized) making that guy the only one in the picture who could possibly be an American (but he's not.) However, the moveon crowd must have read the "shorts" comment, then scrambled and put this picture on their web site: 
A photoshop job that was instantly captured by this blogger. And as James Taranto noted, the pants are actually a photoshop duplicate of the other guy's in the picture. Next, of course, they're going to have to give curly in the background a US-spec'd haircut. Then change those uniforms to US issue, as in this example:  See the Brit? He's the one without a hat. That doesn't happen in Uncle Sam's Army. Posted by Greyhawk / November 30, 2005 11:15 PM | Permalink 21 Comments |
March 19, 2010Dawn Patrol 03/19/2003 [Greyhawk]
"Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world." Mudville was founded in March, 2003. Our efforts to bring the thoughts, words, and deeds of milbloggers to a wider world evolved to become The Dawn Patrol in March, 2005. With today's entry we're going to reset the clock - but not re-write the history - and recreate the world as it was - on a day the world changed...
Updating... more to follow.... MILBOGSAndrew Olmsted, 19 Mar 2003, Stateside: It would appear that the liberation of Iraq has begun. Greyhawk, 18 Mar 2003, Germany: A united world could have, just maybe, brought down Saddam without firing a shot. We will never know. 19 Mar: We'll never know what a united world could have achieved... the UN could not agree on anything, the situation degenerated, and here we are. Status quo was not working. The French were too desperate for oil and trade at any cost. Well-intentioned Americans were led into the streets by Communists (and others) with an agenda. The media distorted the split. Many in America and abroad thought they could manipulate the situation to their personal gain. They miscalculated. The fire is lit. Pontifx ex Machina, 18 Mar, undisclosed location: Rolling out the gate, the guard gets a quick "hook-em, horns" sign as we weave through the barricades. Then we're off, cruising through the desert in a battered-up SUV. On the eve of war, only one thing passes through our minds: is there going to be any appropriate music on the radio? Lt Smash, 19 Mar, undisclosed location: Read the President's speech today. The clock is ticking. Chief Wiggles, 22 Mar, Kuwait: The war started Wednesday morning for us right after the president gave a speech to the American people that lasted about 4 minutes. We were all very anxious for this whole thing to be either over or get it on its way. Will, 22 Mar, en route: I am going to Baghdad to personally shoot that paper hanging son of a bitch! Lt Smash 20 Mar, undisclosed location: Sgt Stryker, 20 Mar, Stateside: Iraq to File U.N. Complaint About Attack Primary Main Objective, 30 Mar, undisclosed location I Dare Kofi to Come Get Me.
BruceR, Flit, 19 Mar, Canada: AND SO IT BEGINS. Godspeed, Yanks. Come home safe and soon. Andrew Olmsted, 20 Mar 2003, Stateside: The most important thing to remember over the next few days is this: the first reports are almost always inaccurate. First reports are generally submitted in the heat of battle before any real analysis can take place. Therefore, they're highly subjective, based on limited information, and rarely hit the mark. So as the first reports of 'surgical strikes' on Iraqi forces come in, it's best to take those reports with a grain of salt... Iraqi BlogsSalam Pax, Baghdad: The bombing aould come and go in waves, nothing too heavy and not yet comparable to what was going on in 91. all radio and TV stations are still on and while the air raid began the Iraqi TV was showing patriotic songs and didn't even bother to inform viewers that we are under attack. at the moment they are re-airing yesterday's interview with the minister of interior affairs. THe sounds of the anti-aircarft artillery is still louder than the booms and bangs which means that they are still far from where we live, but the images we saw on Al Arabia news channel showed a building burning near one of my aunts house... Other BlogsAndrew Sullivan, The Daily Dish: How much more morally indefensible is appeasement when we also have complete international authority to do what must be done? I think we will look back in the future and not ask, as so many now are, how it was that diplomacy didn't get unanimity on this matter. We will look back and see the moral obtuseness of Chirac and Putin and Schroder and Carter and feel nothing but contempt for them, and their preference for state terror over the responsibilities of the free world. That's why I felt enormous pride tonight in the stand being taken by Blair and Bush. The president's speech was measured, firm, just. Blair's political risks - in order to do what he believes is plainly right - will confirm him in history as a great prime minister, the conscience of his party, and the leader of his country. I say that before this war begins, because the cause is just whatever vicissitudes of conflict await us... Glenn Reynolds has a ton of links. Other OpinionsMark LeVine, Alternet - 'Bush Wins': The Left's Nightmare Scenario: ...With war seemingly imminent, the movement is being forced to fall back on a second scenario, "Everyone Loses," in which the warnings of a protracted and bloody war that destabilizes the Middle East and increases terrorism bear their bitter fruit. However unpalatable in terms of destroyed lives and infrastructure, this latter scenario would at least quash the Administration's imperial dreams and force the kind of soul searching of United States' policies that is a major goal of the movement. But this outcome is less likely than many assume, and the antiwar movement would be well advised to plan for a third scenario: "Bush Wins." In this third scenario, the war is over quickly with relatively low U.S. casualties, some sort of mechanism for transitional rule is put in place and President Bush and his policies gain unprecedented power and prestige. From my recent conversations with organizers and their latest pronouncements, it is clear that this possibility has yet to be addressed. Waiting much longer could spell disaster for the antiwar movement... The social and political forces unleashed by the end of decades of Hussein's murderous rule will not easily be penned in by a US-sponsored show-democracy; but whether these forces use a reopened public sphere or turn to violence to respond to the likely betrayal depends in good measure on how adroitly the world progressive community can lay fast but deep roots in Iraq. Newpapers
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Oh my, did wee willy get banned again? His parents really should keep a closer watch on him.
It doesn't matter whether the uniforms are correct. Were the American soldiers who were torturing Iraqis at Abu Ghraib in correct uniform? Does it make you feel better or worse, SSG_K?
I can't believe that that was the best retort you could come up with--fingering a few soldiers (who are now in prison themselves, by the way) out of the roughly 750,000 that have served since then...
Wilson, dearest... it DOES matter what the uniform is... You see, you can only fool some of the people... but you and moveon don't fool any of us. You don't fool us and you certainly don't SPEAK for us. You have been caught with your pants, er... off. (I just couldn't resist Greyhawk!)
All this proves is that the TRUE CARING about "our troops" that Move On wants to tell us controls their desires for an end to the "War on Terror" (which is what leaving Iraq would be) - is nothing but "political circle talk." Too lazy to find a REAL American picture and quick to lie! IF they cared - there would be real Americans in their pictures AND a tribute to the British troops! I like the comment about how the missing hat would never exist in Uncle Sam's Army - TRUE to the extreme!
I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures or interviews that appear to be outdoors where our soldiers are without head cover, but I would expect that would be a sort of "this spot is actually part of that area so you don't need hats", cover on flight lines is a no-no, or perhaps I'm simply mistaken.
It could be that I'm so used to hats I don't see them... sort of like watching Kung Fu Hustle and swearing afterward that it wasn't sub-titled. ;-)
I am normally not a big fan of any news org or whatever that has a biased viewpoint, but you gitta give kudos to FOX--up there on the big screen in the CAOC I just watched them highlight the moveon coverup, even putting the pictures side by side.
I hope this tanks them, because it a doozie to their credibility.
Chris, all they did is bust a few lower-level people. They left the real criminals -- Rumsfeld, Cheney and their cronies -- unscathed. They are war criminals under the precedents set at the Nuremberg Trials of 1946. Oops, but I forgot: You'd have taken the Nazis side, like any good Bushbot.
That's the best you can do, Wilson, is this lame Nazi shit? Why do you love throwing that word around from behind the keyboard? Why don't you try calling somebdy a Nazi to his face?
I'd be happy to call you a Nazi to your face, Steve. Where would you like to meet?
Wilson,
So it is alright for moveon.org to blatantly mislead the public?
Well, let's put it this way. The Jawhol! crowd is forever prattling on about how all veterans love the Fuhrer. Okay, so guess what? The people who will care about military uniform details wouldn't be reached by Move.org ads no matter how accurate the details are. Those who don't notice the inaccurancy of the uniforms aren't going to care, because the point will have been made.
Okay Wilson. Get out to WestPac and look me up. In the meantime, keep lurking, lying, and slandering.
Hey Steve I haven't lied about anything. And if you look up the definition of slander, you'd see that it doesn't apply. So, you want to send me an airplane ticket to meet you? First class, natch.
Wilson? You still here? I go away for a few days and figured you'd have moved on to more fertile grounds by now.
And now you are wanting to hook up with folks too? he-he! That's just about a joke! You remind me so much of one of those little kids that used to run off about 50 yards and then flip the bird. Keyboard warrior!
I think you've lost your grip little boy. Now run along, quit trying to play grown up, and do your homework.
Let's see... what were you saying before I left? Oh yeah, you seem to think you have some sort of atypical smear with me 'cause I wasn't military? Well, you are correct. Over 20 years from AB to Skipper in the USMM doesn't qualify me for squat but I'm still proud of it just the same. And just what are your qualifications again? Playing with your buttbuddies in the closet of a frat house qualifies you how to make judgements on me exactly? Or anyone else? Yep! you are definitely a legend in your own mind and have about one of the most serious cases of pe**s envy I've ever run across! heh!
Time to enlist there Wilson. See if you've really got what it takes instead of trying to build up your own deficiencies on the backs of others. Do you have the intestinal fortitude there Wilson? Can you show yourself and the world what you think you're made of? Shoot man, they're just little mind numbed robots, it should be a walk in the park for a man of such physical prowess and stellar intellect such as yourself! Let us know how that works out!
Or does it scare you too much to contemplate? Still wetting the bed too? Oh you're just so much fun! What a man! LMAO! :-o
Sorry, Dad, but I'm too old to enlist. As for the spankings you crave, somehow I suspect you'd want your spank-ees to be younger guys than me. But hey, who knows? As for your "military" background, anyone can write anything they want to on the Internet, but I think you gave yourself away when you pissed on the grave of the fallen because he's not a wingnut like you.
I don't know who or what you are, but a marine? No, I don't think so.
Wilson shows lack of reading comprehension by spewing at "Jarhead Dad":
I don't know who or what you are, but a marine? No, I don't think so.
Odd, I thought his handle indicated that he was the father of a Marine. Though USMM stands for "United States Merchant Marine"(?) that isn't quite the same as the United States Marine Corps. HTH. HAND.
Oh, and slander:
Main Entry: 2slander
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sclaundre, slaundre, from Old French esclandre, from Late Latin scandalum stumbling block, offense -- more at SCANDAL
1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation
2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person -- compare LIBEL
That pretty much fits what you do to those icky enough to disagree with your viewpoints. You call them Nazis, say they're sexual deviants, and more. Unless you're being cute and trying to pass off slander as spoken defamation, in which case then libel would fit. They're two words for the same thing, just different mediums of transmission.
(Gosh, I wonder what rant Wilson's going to release to "justify" his slander and libel techniques.)
Oh wait, I just thought of one:
In order to damage someone's reputation, the one engaging in slander has to be credible or believable. Gosh, Wilson's SAFE from slander charges then. All he can do is hope his words cause a little pain and annoyance. No wonder he's so cranky: he's utterly powerless beyond that.
Wow, you people are even dumber than the average rightwingnut which is saying a lot. First off, Jarhead refers to the U.S. Marine Corps not the merchant marine. A Jarhead Dad could be the father of a marine, but it's more logical that it would be a marine who is a father. It's a grammar thing and you wouldn't understand.
Now, as for slander, look at the definition. It doesn't apply here. Reading: It's what's for dinner.
So by claiming people who don't agree with you are Nazis, torturers, sexual deviants and otherwise bad people you are somehow NOT trying to defame and damage those people's reputations?
The history of JarheadDad? heh! Well let's see. First off, if you go to our webiste you'll see it is run by "A Jarhead's Dad" but when trying to post on various sites (as a registered user btw) AJarheadsDad was taken. So was JarheadsDad. So it ended up being JarheadDad. I believe everyone under the sun knows me and who my son is. Guess you missed the memo huh Wilson? Why do I not find that surprising? ;-)
Anyone CAN write anything on the internet Wilson. You are living proof of that. But if you've been around since Hawk first started his site and the other milblogs began then you'd best have it right. Ya think? heh!
Funny, I grew up with Marines. My Uncle is an Okie Marine and four of my cousins served in the Corps. I spent a few cruises running Marine support vessels and my best friends are Marines. Not one of them seems to have a problem with my handle but yet you Wilson, someone that sits on the sidelines, never served a day in your life, and hides behind a keyboard, has a problem with it. Gee, go figure! LOL!
Yes Patrick, you got it right but everyone knows that Merchant Mariners are just pogues on big boats! heh! Just ask Wilson. He's an expert on everything and he'll be able to tell you all about our duties and what the USMM does. And here I thought my handle was quite clear and intentionally so! So that is how the moonbats look at the world huh? No wonder I can't understand Wilson in the least. We don't operate on the same plane of consciousness! HA!
Next thing you know Wilson will be telling me that since Da Grunt hasn't had a shower in four weeks he's not fit to be a Marine either! Isn't that how the logic works? What a twisted view of the world it is from the left side. Be careful Wilson, if you go too far to the left you'll fall of the edge of the world. Don't forget the world is flat!! :-o
At least you got one thing right bedwetter, you don't know who or what I am. And Marine is spelled with a capital M. ROTFLMAO!