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 Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! November 30, 2005 Where are the Americans?By GreyhawkFirst watch the video. The folks at moveon.org could be taken seriously about supporting the troops - if anyone in the group even knew what one looked like. Best of the Web posted an email from an army captain who busted the phonies yesterday. Here's the screen shot from the moveon ad:  As the captain noted, these guys are in British uniforms. He also pointed out the guy in shorts, noting that's not part of the US uniform. Actually, a GI could have a pair of shorts (though PT gear is the only authorized) making that guy the only one in the picture who could possibly be an American (but he's not.) However, the moveon crowd must have read the "shorts" comment, then scrambled and put this picture on their web site: 
A photoshop job that was instantly captured by this blogger. And as James Taranto noted, the pants are actually a photoshop duplicate of the other guy's in the picture. Next, of course, they're going to have to give curly in the background a US-spec'd haircut. Then change those uniforms to US issue, as in this example:  See the Brit? He's the one without a hat. That doesn't happen in Uncle Sam's Army. Posted by Greyhawk / November 30, 2005 11:15 PM | Permalink 21 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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Oh my, did wee willy get banned again? His parents really should keep a closer watch on him.
It doesn't matter whether the uniforms are correct. Were the American soldiers who were torturing Iraqis at Abu Ghraib in correct uniform? Does it make you feel better or worse, SSG_K?
I can't believe that that was the best retort you could come up with--fingering a few soldiers (who are now in prison themselves, by the way) out of the roughly 750,000 that have served since then...
Wilson, dearest... it DOES matter what the uniform is... You see, you can only fool some of the people... but you and moveon don't fool any of us. You don't fool us and you certainly don't SPEAK for us. You have been caught with your pants, er... off. (I just couldn't resist Greyhawk!)
All this proves is that the TRUE CARING about "our troops" that Move On wants to tell us controls their desires for an end to the "War on Terror" (which is what leaving Iraq would be) - is nothing but "political circle talk." Too lazy to find a REAL American picture and quick to lie! IF they cared - there would be real Americans in their pictures AND a tribute to the British troops! I like the comment about how the missing hat would never exist in Uncle Sam's Army - TRUE to the extreme!
I'm pretty sure I've seen pictures or interviews that appear to be outdoors where our soldiers are without head cover, but I would expect that would be a sort of "this spot is actually part of that area so you don't need hats", cover on flight lines is a no-no, or perhaps I'm simply mistaken.
It could be that I'm so used to hats I don't see them... sort of like watching Kung Fu Hustle and swearing afterward that it wasn't sub-titled. ;-)
I am normally not a big fan of any news org or whatever that has a biased viewpoint, but you gitta give kudos to FOX--up there on the big screen in the CAOC I just watched them highlight the moveon coverup, even putting the pictures side by side.
I hope this tanks them, because it a doozie to their credibility.
Chris, all they did is bust a few lower-level people. They left the real criminals -- Rumsfeld, Cheney and their cronies -- unscathed. They are war criminals under the precedents set at the Nuremberg Trials of 1946. Oops, but I forgot: You'd have taken the Nazis side, like any good Bushbot.
That's the best you can do, Wilson, is this lame Nazi shit? Why do you love throwing that word around from behind the keyboard? Why don't you try calling somebdy a Nazi to his face?
I'd be happy to call you a Nazi to your face, Steve. Where would you like to meet?
Wilson,
So it is alright for moveon.org to blatantly mislead the public?
Well, let's put it this way. The Jawhol! crowd is forever prattling on about how all veterans love the Fuhrer. Okay, so guess what? The people who will care about military uniform details wouldn't be reached by Move.org ads no matter how accurate the details are. Those who don't notice the inaccurancy of the uniforms aren't going to care, because the point will have been made.
Okay Wilson. Get out to WestPac and look me up. In the meantime, keep lurking, lying, and slandering.
Hey Steve I haven't lied about anything. And if you look up the definition of slander, you'd see that it doesn't apply. So, you want to send me an airplane ticket to meet you? First class, natch.
Wilson? You still here? I go away for a few days and figured you'd have moved on to more fertile grounds by now.
And now you are wanting to hook up with folks too? he-he! That's just about a joke! You remind me so much of one of those little kids that used to run off about 50 yards and then flip the bird. Keyboard warrior!
I think you've lost your grip little boy. Now run along, quit trying to play grown up, and do your homework.
Let's see... what were you saying before I left? Oh yeah, you seem to think you have some sort of atypical smear with me 'cause I wasn't military? Well, you are correct. Over 20 years from AB to Skipper in the USMM doesn't qualify me for squat but I'm still proud of it just the same. And just what are your qualifications again? Playing with your buttbuddies in the closet of a frat house qualifies you how to make judgements on me exactly? Or anyone else? Yep! you are definitely a legend in your own mind and have about one of the most serious cases of pe**s envy I've ever run across! heh!
Time to enlist there Wilson. See if you've really got what it takes instead of trying to build up your own deficiencies on the backs of others. Do you have the intestinal fortitude there Wilson? Can you show yourself and the world what you think you're made of? Shoot man, they're just little mind numbed robots, it should be a walk in the park for a man of such physical prowess and stellar intellect such as yourself! Let us know how that works out!
Or does it scare you too much to contemplate? Still wetting the bed too? Oh you're just so much fun! What a man! LMAO! :-o
Sorry, Dad, but I'm too old to enlist. As for the spankings you crave, somehow I suspect you'd want your spank-ees to be younger guys than me. But hey, who knows? As for your "military" background, anyone can write anything they want to on the Internet, but I think you gave yourself away when you pissed on the grave of the fallen because he's not a wingnut like you.
I don't know who or what you are, but a marine? No, I don't think so.
Wilson shows lack of reading comprehension by spewing at "Jarhead Dad":
I don't know who or what you are, but a marine? No, I don't think so.
Odd, I thought his handle indicated that he was the father of a Marine. Though USMM stands for "United States Merchant Marine"(?) that isn't quite the same as the United States Marine Corps. HTH. HAND.
Oh, and slander:
Main Entry: 2slander
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English sclaundre, slaundre, from Old French esclandre, from Late Latin scandalum stumbling block, offense -- more at SCANDAL
1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation
2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person -- compare LIBEL
That pretty much fits what you do to those icky enough to disagree with your viewpoints. You call them Nazis, say they're sexual deviants, and more. Unless you're being cute and trying to pass off slander as spoken defamation, in which case then libel would fit. They're two words for the same thing, just different mediums of transmission.
(Gosh, I wonder what rant Wilson's going to release to "justify" his slander and libel techniques.)
Oh wait, I just thought of one:
In order to damage someone's reputation, the one engaging in slander has to be credible or believable. Gosh, Wilson's SAFE from slander charges then. All he can do is hope his words cause a little pain and annoyance. No wonder he's so cranky: he's utterly powerless beyond that.
Wow, you people are even dumber than the average rightwingnut which is saying a lot. First off, Jarhead refers to the U.S. Marine Corps not the merchant marine. A Jarhead Dad could be the father of a marine, but it's more logical that it would be a marine who is a father. It's a grammar thing and you wouldn't understand.
Now, as for slander, look at the definition. It doesn't apply here. Reading: It's what's for dinner.
So by claiming people who don't agree with you are Nazis, torturers, sexual deviants and otherwise bad people you are somehow NOT trying to defame and damage those people's reputations?
The history of JarheadDad? heh! Well let's see. First off, if you go to our webiste you'll see it is run by "A Jarhead's Dad" but when trying to post on various sites (as a registered user btw) AJarheadsDad was taken. So was JarheadsDad. So it ended up being JarheadDad. I believe everyone under the sun knows me and who my son is. Guess you missed the memo huh Wilson? Why do I not find that surprising? ;-)
Anyone CAN write anything on the internet Wilson. You are living proof of that. But if you've been around since Hawk first started his site and the other milblogs began then you'd best have it right. Ya think? heh!
Funny, I grew up with Marines. My Uncle is an Okie Marine and four of my cousins served in the Corps. I spent a few cruises running Marine support vessels and my best friends are Marines. Not one of them seems to have a problem with my handle but yet you Wilson, someone that sits on the sidelines, never served a day in your life, and hides behind a keyboard, has a problem with it. Gee, go figure! LOL!
Yes Patrick, you got it right but everyone knows that Merchant Mariners are just pogues on big boats! heh! Just ask Wilson. He's an expert on everything and he'll be able to tell you all about our duties and what the USMM does. And here I thought my handle was quite clear and intentionally so! So that is how the moonbats look at the world huh? No wonder I can't understand Wilson in the least. We don't operate on the same plane of consciousness! HA!
Next thing you know Wilson will be telling me that since Da Grunt hasn't had a shower in four weeks he's not fit to be a Marine either! Isn't that how the logic works? What a twisted view of the world it is from the left side. Be careful Wilson, if you go too far to the left you'll fall of the edge of the world. Don't forget the world is flat!! :-o
At least you got one thing right bedwetter, you don't know who or what I am. And Marine is spelled with a capital M. ROTFLMAO!