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November 7, 2005

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Update: Lying Times

By Greyhawk

The latest from the New York Post:

The girlfriend of a Marine killed in Iraq said she was devastated when she saw how The New York Times cherry-picked a letter her "first love" intended her to read in case he died.

"It was sad that we had to go through this some more. I was upset about what they took out of that letter," said an emotional Emmylyn Anonical, 22, whose boyfriend Cpl. Jeffrey Starr died in Iraq earlier this year.

In her first public comments since the letter scandal erupted, Anonical told The Post that going public with the private letter was one of the hardest decisions of her life.

Seeing it used by The Times to misrepresent her boyfriend's beliefs about the war stung deeply, she said.

"The reason I chose to share that letter was the paragraph about why he was doing this, not the part about him expecting to die. It hurt, it really hurt," she said by phone from Seattle.

I'm saying read it all, but you're probably already there.

Michelle Malkin's update to the story she originally broke included this response from the New York Times reporter to an email from a reader:

Have you been to Iraq, Michael? Or to any other war, for that matter? If you have, you should know the anxiety and fear parents, spouses, and troops themselves feel when they deploy to war. And if you haven't, what right do you have to object when papers like The New York Times try to describe that anxiety and fear?

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Previous posts: Lying Times and 2003.


Posted by Greyhawk / November 7, 2005 10:30 AM | Permalink

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Slime York Times from The Queen of All Evil on November 7, 2005 12:42 PM

Grayhawk's got more on the soldier's letter the New York Times dowdified. Is that disgusting or what? It's like the Times is run by the Michael More crowd or somet...

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This is Emmylyn Anonical. She's the girlfriend of the late Corporal Jeffrey B. Starr, on the right. Read what she has to say about the NYTimes' selective editing of Cpl. Starr's letter to her in the NYPost: The girlfriend... Read More

Michelle Malkin, that evil, turncoat, yellow samboette, is again getting the goods on this miserable rag and driving the libs nuts. The Times' selective editing of Corporal Jeffrey B. Starr's letter is worthy of this weeks years Joseph Goebbels Read More

Gee, I thought the NYT would be pretty consistent as regards the "absolute moral authority" of those closest to the dead of war -- as they said about Cindy Sheehan -- but it turns out they're giving the finger to... Read More

Two stories today highlight the painful inadequacy of the mainstream media in terms of basic fact checking and getting it right. Read More

....the Marine so perversely misrepresented by the NY Times, is speaking out, complaining that the Times' misrepresentation of Starr's stance on the war hurt her deeply. Read More

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This will NO LONGER be tolerated. Put that newspaper out of business now. It is time to take a baseball bat to the knees of these crack smoking "journalists"

Jeffrey Star was a Saint.

Put them out of business. Kill the liberals. Leave the country if you don't like it.

Vote Republican, The Intollerant Party. Because nobody else should really have an opinion, you know?

Jeffrey,

The NYT has every right to an opinion. But let them be honest about it. The readers have every right to expect them to divulge it rather than pretend to be "objective." Then the market can decide whether they should stay in business. As far as intolerant, do you really think the dems are any more tolerant? Ask Michael Steele about that.

"Kill [...] the [...] Republican[s].
- Jeffrey Boser"

There you go, Jeff. I hope you enjoy my NYT-stlye quoting. Hey, FBI, this guy's making death threats!

In reaction to the article "Update: Lying Times", Mr. Jeffrey Boser was moved to exclaim:

"Vote Republican"

...that we will, Jeffrey, that we will.


The Times has been lying a long time. Look up Walter Duranty's name on Google and see what he and the Times pulled in the 1930's. Their pals the Stalinists killed 10 million people in the Ukraine and the Times covered it up. The Ukrainian government has tried repeatedly to get the Times to give up the Pulitzer Prize that they won for this 'reporting' but they won't do it. Walter Duranty was the Moscow Bureau chief for the NYT's at the time and probably a KGB agent.

Yup, leave it to the wingnuts to want to kill people who disagree with them. Why am I not surprised? You're brothers under the skin with the Stalinists.

When in doubt.. Write to the Public editor: public@nytimes.com. Here's my contribution to their inbox.

Subject: Deeply Offended
To the Public Editor of the NYTimes, Byron Calame:

I am deeply offended after I read the Times article by James Dao on Cpl. J. Starr and saw the very obvious attempt to twist the words of a honorable man to fit the "story" of the hour. It stings that I cannot read my favorite newspaper when I travel and be able to fully trust the words that are contained within and to know that behind the mis-quoted transcripts of the Time there lies a truly deeper and more honorable story that I have to find out -not from the Times, but from an online website.

I fully expect to see a public response from your ombudsman regarding this mistreatment of the last and most sacred words of an American Hero at his death.

I implore you to put into practice your values and to remind you of the NYTimes Company's mission statement:

- The Core Purpose of the New York Times Company is to enhance society by creating, collecting and distributing high-quality news, information and entertainment.
- Our core values, those that are essential to the way we do business, are: content of the highest quality and integrity - this is the basis for our reputation and the means by which we fulfill the public trust and our customers expectations [...]

Thus spake some semiliterate moonbat: "You're brothers under the skin with the Stalinists."

Uh huh, because it was the Right that loved Stalin so much. Idiot.

All the partisan swill aside, why is a misrepresentation like this viewed by anyone as anything other than dishonesty?

This will NO LONGER be tolerated. Put that newspaper out of business now. It is time to take a baseball bat to the knees of these crack smoking "journalists"

And Malkin calls the left "unhinged"?

Thus spake some semiliterate moonbat: "You're brothers under the skin with the Stalinists."

Uh huh, because it was the Right that loved Stalin so much. Idiot.

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Apparently my use of figurative language -- "brothers under the skin" -- was too abstract for you to understand. I sympathize. Your Mom homeschooled you and she distrusted abstractions because no abstractions ever made their way into her cookies, by golly.

So let me be concrete. In spite of surface differences in ideologies, the rightwingnuts are akin to Stalinists because they both believe in the use of violence against their opponents.

Why not put that newspaper out of business ?? I agree wholeheartedly with that objective. Until the press feels that it's readership will not tolerate being decieved the have no incentive to change their ways.What sort of an idiot would pay to read misinformation. Not only that, but what sort of an idiot can't see that the problem with what this newspaper did has nothing to do with differing opinions. What this newspaper did was to deliberately distort the facts. WHY would anyone think that this should be acceptable ? It is an abuse of the trust that the readership places in the paper and it is the abuse of the core intent of one of our most precious freedoms, freedom of speech. I agree that this example is especially vile because it betrays a young man who GAVE HIS LIFE because he believes in the freedoms that have made this "rag" rich. Put them out of business ? For me that would be a fitting tribute to Cpl. Jeffrey Starr- and an indication to me that America does , indeed , work.

It's every leftist's inalienable right to stuff words into the mouths of dead soldiers in order to advance their agenda.

How dare you demand truth and honesty?!!! Your criticism is crushing their right to dissent, you Rethuglican!

Well of course the NYT was opposed to Lincoln declaring war on the confederate states of america. so they have always been fucked up

Dan, we interrupt your screed with some facts. The NYT was pro-Union and moderate Republican in those days. Lincoln never declared war on the so-called CSA, but rather declared them to be in a state of insurrection.

The states calling themselves the "CSA" regarded it as a declaration of war, but as with many things they were wrong about that one as well.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004