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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! October 31, 2005 Every Day HeroesBy GreyhawkIt's often said that it's difficult to cover the entirety of the Iraq war from a hotel in Baghdad. The truthfulness or fairness of that statement is debateable. But regardless of effort, motivation, or lack thereof, given the thousands of potential stories to tell it's no surprise that many are overlooked. For instance, enter "Lance Corporal Joshua Butler" in the search window at ABC News and you'll get this response: No results were found for "Lance Corporal Joshua Butler". Try the same at the New York Times: Your search for Marine Corporal Joshua Butler in all fields returned 0 results. That's unfortunate. Because in a rather baffling story last summer the NY Times bemoaned the fact that there were no stories of heroes in the media coverage of the Iraq war. They blamed the Pentagon. (Full text here.) For bloggers this was the equivalent of tossing a lamb chop into a den of lions. Follow the links and trackbacks in this story and you'll find numerous examples of heroism, outstanding acts of courage, and ample evidence that the generation at war in Iraq is no less deserving of accolades then their fathers and grandfathers before them. Since most of those blog reports rely on military news sources for their information we can dismiss that "Pentagon reluctance" to acknowledge heroism and instead ponder why the media has been reluctant to do so. After all, they waste little time in detailing the failures of those same all-to-human troops. Among the many heroic stories the Times missed is that of Marine Corporal Joshua Butler. Corporal Butler was serving with India Company, 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, Regimental Combat Team-2 in Husaybah, Iraq, near the Syrian border. On April 11, 2005, they were attacked: That morning a group of four mortar rounds flew over the base.Meanwhile, the attack intensified. Under suppressing fire from small arms and RPGs, a white dump truck approached the Marine's position: Corporal Anthony Fink, a 21-year-old Columbus, Ohio native and Lance Cpl.s Joe Lampe and Roger Leyton were manning a M-240G medium machinegun when their bunker was hit with an RPG knocking them to the ground. The dust and sand from the busted sandbags clouded their view of the oncoming truck and small arms fire forced them to keep their heads down.The first truck was intended to blast a hole for the larger one to follow: A couple of seconds later, a red fire truck cleared the smoke the previous truck left heading toward Butler and his post at about 40 mph.The attack had failed, but the battle wasn't over... As Butler stopped the SVBIED attacks, the assault on Fink?s post continued from multiple directions. Taking fire and returning it, Fink and Leyton began firing 40 mm grenades from a M-203 grenade launcher as 1st Sgt. Donald Brazeal, the company first sergeant, arrived at their position to find out where they were taking the heaviest amount of fire.As USA Today noted in their coverage, this was one in a series of defeats for the enemy in Iraq: The daylight attack on this remote U.S. military base fits a pattern of recent insurgent attacks on U.S. military strongholds. On Saturday, a mortar attack at Camp Ramadi killed three servicemembers, and there was a coordinated assault two weeks ago on the U.S.-run Abu Ghraib prison on the outskirts of Baghdad.The Abu Ghraib attack was very similar in execution and outcome to the Husaybah assault: The insurgents used small and medium arms fire as cover fire for a suicide car-bomber as he drove his way towards the perimeter wall near the southeast tower. Marines returned fire, causing the vehicle to explode before it reached the wall. Shortly thereafter the story of Corporal Butler was forgotten - at least in the media. But last week, following the return of Butler's unit to the States, he was honored in the US Congress by Bill Shuster (R - Pa): Mr. Speaker, I rise today to recognize and distinguish one of America?s finest ? United States Marine Lance Corporal Joshua Butler of Altoona, Pennsylvania. Butler, who dreamed of being a U.S. Marine since he was four years old, protected hundreds of his fellow comrades from suicide bombers mounting an attack with trucks, explosives and no regard for human life.No doubt Americans would be proud of Corporal Butler and the many like him, but once again, here's the New York Times coverage of the story. We'll assume he didn't meet the Times criteria for that hero they were looking for. If you read far enough into the AP story headlined U.S. Military Deaths Reach 2,000 in Iraq you may experience a bit of deja-vu: [Al-Qaida in Iraq] also said it was behind the three suicide car bombs aimed at the Palestine and Sheraton hotels in Baghdad. Deputy Interior Minister Maj. Gen. Hussein Ali Kamal said 17 people were killed - mostly hotel guards and passers-by - in Monday's attack, which involved bombers driving two cars and a cement truck.For saving a hotel full of reporters from certain death, Spc Green was named ABC News Person of the Week. It's often said that it's difficult to cover the entirety of the Iraq war from a hotel in Baghdad. But if you wait there long enough, eventually the war will come to you. Posted by Greyhawk / October 31, 2005 5:55 PM | Permalink 2 TrackBacksThe Greyhawks went a couple of days without posting and I figured they must have gone on a weekend excursion of some sort. Based on today's deluge of lengthy posts, I wonder if they were having technical problems and saving Read More The Greyhawks went a couple of days without posting and I figured they must have gone on a weekend excursion of some sort. Based on today's deluge of lengthy posts, I wonder if they were having technical problems and saving things up to post when they ... Read More 13 Comments |
March 19, 2010Dawn Patrol 03/19/2003 [Greyhawk]
"Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world." Mudville was founded in March, 2003. Our efforts to bring the thoughts, words, and deeds of milbloggers to a wider world evolved to become The Dawn Patrol in March, 2005. With today's entry we're going to reset the clock - but not re-write the history - and recreate the world as it was - on a day the world changed...
Updating... more to follow.... MILBOGSAndrew Olmsted, 19 Mar 2003, Stateside: It would appear that the liberation of Iraq has begun. Greyhawk, 18 Mar 2003, Germany: A united world could have, just maybe, brought down Saddam without firing a shot. We will never know. 19 Mar: We'll never know what a united world could have achieved... the UN could not agree on anything, the situation degenerated, and here we are. Status quo was not working. The French were too desperate for oil and trade at any cost. Well-intentioned Americans were led into the streets by Communists (and others) with an agenda. The media distorted the split. Many in America and abroad thought they could manipulate the situation to their personal gain. They miscalculated. The fire is lit. Pontifx ex Machina, 18 Mar, undisclosed location: Rolling out the gate, the guard gets a quick "hook-em, horns" sign as we weave through the barricades. Then we're off, cruising through the desert in a battered-up SUV. On the eve of war, only one thing passes through our minds: is there going to be any appropriate music on the radio? Lt Smash, 19 Mar, undisclosed location: Read the President's speech today. The clock is ticking. Chief Wiggles, 22 Mar, Kuwait: The war started Wednesday morning for us right after the president gave a speech to the American people that lasted about 4 minutes. We were all very anxious for this whole thing to be either over or get it on its way. Will, 22 Mar, en route: I am going to Baghdad to personally shoot that paper hanging son of a bitch! Lt Smash 20 Mar, undisclosed location: Sgt Stryker, 20 Mar, Stateside: Iraq to File U.N. Complaint About Attack Primary Main Objective, 30 Mar, undisclosed location I Dare Kofi to Come Get Me.
BruceR, Flit, 19 Mar, Canada: AND SO IT BEGINS. Godspeed, Yanks. Come home safe and soon. Andrew Olmsted, 20 Mar 2003, Stateside: The most important thing to remember over the next few days is this: the first reports are almost always inaccurate. First reports are generally submitted in the heat of battle before any real analysis can take place. Therefore, they're highly subjective, based on limited information, and rarely hit the mark. So as the first reports of 'surgical strikes' on Iraqi forces come in, it's best to take those reports with a grain of salt... Iraqi BlogsSalam Pax, Baghdad: The bombing aould come and go in waves, nothing too heavy and not yet comparable to what was going on in 91. all radio and TV stations are still on and while the air raid began the Iraqi TV was showing patriotic songs and didn't even bother to inform viewers that we are under attack. at the moment they are re-airing yesterday's interview with the minister of interior affairs. THe sounds of the anti-aircarft artillery is still louder than the booms and bangs which means that they are still far from where we live, but the images we saw on Al Arabia news channel showed a building burning near one of my aunts house... Other BlogsAndrew Sullivan, The Daily Dish: How much more morally indefensible is appeasement when we also have complete international authority to do what must be done? I think we will look back in the future and not ask, as so many now are, how it was that diplomacy didn't get unanimity on this matter. We will look back and see the moral obtuseness of Chirac and Putin and Schroder and Carter and feel nothing but contempt for them, and their preference for state terror over the responsibilities of the free world. That's why I felt enormous pride tonight in the stand being taken by Blair and Bush. The president's speech was measured, firm, just. Blair's political risks - in order to do what he believes is plainly right - will confirm him in history as a great prime minister, the conscience of his party, and the leader of his country. I say that before this war begins, because the cause is just whatever vicissitudes of conflict await us... Glenn Reynolds has a ton of links. Other OpinionsMark LeVine, Alternet - 'Bush Wins': The Left's Nightmare Scenario: ...With war seemingly imminent, the movement is being forced to fall back on a second scenario, "Everyone Loses," in which the warnings of a protracted and bloody war that destabilizes the Middle East and increases terrorism bear their bitter fruit. However unpalatable in terms of destroyed lives and infrastructure, this latter scenario would at least quash the Administration's imperial dreams and force the kind of soul searching of United States' policies that is a major goal of the movement. But this outcome is less likely than many assume, and the antiwar movement would be well advised to plan for a third scenario: "Bush Wins." In this third scenario, the war is over quickly with relatively low U.S. casualties, some sort of mechanism for transitional rule is put in place and President Bush and his policies gain unprecedented power and prestige. From my recent conversations with organizers and their latest pronouncements, it is clear that this possibility has yet to be addressed. Waiting much longer could spell disaster for the antiwar movement... The social and political forces unleashed by the end of decades of Hussein's murderous rule will not easily be penned in by a US-sponsored show-democracy; but whether these forces use a reopened public sphere or turn to violence to respond to the likely betrayal depends in good measure on how adroitly the world progressive community can lay fast but deep roots in Iraq. Newpapers
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Hey Greyhawk, ain't it just so much fun for you to highlight all the hero stories? Is that why you people are perfectly okay when your War Criminal in Chief lies his way into Iraq and threatens more of the same in Iran and Syria? Hoping for more hero stories, even if -- oh what the hell, you say -- we now have 15,000+ American wounded (half permanently disabled) and 2,025 dead.
Not to mention the tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed and God only knows how many maimed. Yup, it's their freedom we did this for. That's why our government had to order soldiers to commit acts of torture and perversion on them in the name of America.
So tell me, what's the Republican position on perversion? From where I sit, it would appear that you are against it unless our soliders are doing it to the people who's "freedom" they are "protecting." Please explain that twisted right-wing logic. Maybe you're "patriotic" friend Blackfive can help.
While you're at it, you can tell us why 42% of Iraqis approve of attacks on Americans; why 85% of them want us out of their country; why significant majorities of Americans think the war is a failure and that it was never worth it to begin with.
You wouldn't be ginning up these hero stories -- Jessica Lynch, anyone? -- to distract people from the realities, would you? Oh no, that would never happen.
...and the meltdown of Wilson Kolb begins.
Seems to me that if all this heroic carnage is to be noted, then it's only fair to note that its taking place in a losing war entered into on false pretenses and led by a group of war criminals. This takes nothing away from the heroism itself, but rather renders it more tragic than it otherwise would have been.
The Republican right-wingers don't see it that way, of course. To them, our military personnel are merely matchsticks to be burned in service of partisan glory. I'd like to say that it's a shame, but you can only really say that to people who have any shame.
The meltdown in progress is the meltdown of a great nation betrayed by its leaders.
Kolb here are some real statistics.
Less than 1% of Iraqi's participating in the insurgency. Estimates range from 10,000 to 200,000, while the real number lies somewhere in between I'll accept the top one for arguments sake. Voters in the last two elections equal around 33% of the populace. 8 million plus in each of the last two elections. That's a third of the entire populace, over half of te eligble voters. 8 million Iraqis for democracy, .2 million against.
What about republican right wingers in the military? Are you suggesting we are ALL on the verge of self immolation?
Patrick
Isn't it weird to see him pretend there isn't a detailed look at the Abu Ghraib torturers just a few posts back?
Wilson - actually, of the 15k wounded, over half were returned to duty within 72 hours. More here:
http://www.mudvillegazette.com/archives/003274.html
Thanks Greyhawk! I was thinking about that numbskull NY Times reporter just last week, and wondering if anyone has followed up on that.
I hope all milbloggers plan something big for the Easongate anniversary next January.
As for the detractors, they're not much different than the peace movements prior to WWII (like the "American Peace Mobilization"). Their side just hasn't been hit yet.
John
I see your point, and it's a good one. But to set the record straight, if there were 200,000 people in the insurgency you'd see multiple US bases overrun. They don't lack the 'nads to try it, as the above story makes clear. They just lack the numbers. It doesn't take a large number of "troops" to accomplish what the insurgents have done over the past couple years. I'm willing to bet even that 20k number might be too high by a factor of 10.
Greyhawk: I'm more amazed at the projection inherent in the accusations he flings at you and other people.
Btw, is Wilson using the same IP as Willysnout, or are you just noticing that his writing style is very similar to that previous commenter? (Right down to the insults and accusation towards those who disagree with Kolb here.)
Chester
As Confusious* once said: The Innernets is small in it's largeness, and even larger in it's smallness. Seek your answer here:
http://www.addiestan.com/2005/09/diaspora-in-seattle.html
(*not to be confused with the Chinese philosopher of similar name)
Mr. Greyhawk.
20,000 is probably a good high end estimate. It's the one I use in private conversation. Liberals often trying to overwhelm us the legitimacy of their cause and the futility of ours use higher numbers. The highest I've yet heard is the 200,000. I use that merely for arguments sake, since .9% or .09% is still statistically equivalent to zero when compared to the massive turnout for elections. The moonbats would have to increase their estimates anoter fivefold before they really
In 2004 we never saw anything larger than a platoon size element. And then only once. I'm not sure how many bases would be overrun, I know the attempt would be made, but I have to believe in most cases we'd mop the floor with them. Plus if they ever massed in those numbers the Air Force would be happy to remind them why they keep F16s in country still.
But no doubt 200,000 insurgents, is a liberal fantasy.
I've been following the story of SPC Green since that AP Story first appeared, and I found some sources with a lot more detail:
http://fuzzilicious.blogspot.com/2005/10/rest-of-story.html
http://fuzzilicious.blogspot.com/2005/10/update-to-rest-of-story.html
Mr.Kolb, I suggest you read the following from the ReligionofPeace.com
But let’s put the numbers in perspective…
Eighteen times as many Americans die from alcohol-related incidents. In fact, the death rate from terror in Iraq is about eight times lower than the number of Americans dying from tobacco-related causes even taking the population disparity into account. This is also true for obesity-related mortality, which is poised to overtake smoking as the top cause of preventable death.
The residents of fourteen of the eighteen Iraqi provinces enjoy a much lower crime rate than nearly any American city, and the other four provinces average fewer murders than New York City’s worst year under David Dinkins.
Though the number of Iraqis dying from terror attacks is both tragic and preventable, it is almost incomparable to the number of those killed under Saddam. The people in the West who use the attacks for their own propaganda purposes (in exactly the way that the terrorists intend) are playing directly into the hands of those whose intention is to turn Iraq (and the Middle East) into a genuine disaster that will have enormous consequences for the rest of us.
GreyHawk,
Well done here. I hope that you and BlackFive will compile as many of these heroic stories as you possibly can for the MilBloggers book. I am sure it would be many hundreds of pages of our heroes' stories. And millions of folks would probably buy it.
I pray that my son will one day be worthy of their dedication to duty and their perseverance in the face of the treasonous slander of the media. If not for you and BlackFive and others like you, we would lose hope that our country had any heroes left.
Subsunk