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August 1, 2005

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The Vicious Circle

By Greyhawk

After describing a near-death experience at a military checkpoint in Baghdad a reporter gets to his real topic:

Afterward I asked their captain how close they had come to killing us. He still had the safety off his M-16, his finger still curled around the trigger. He twitched it imperceptibly. "That close," he said. Had I not been there, but just my Iraqi colleagues or had the driver panicked and reversed or even had they been just a little farther away, no doubt I would not be writing this now. An ending that unfortunately many Iraqis have already suffered, shot at checkpoints and roadstops by jumpy troops, mistaken for possible suicide bombers, bombed by aircraft with faulty targeting information. All those things have indeed happened.

But how often, really? The answer: not very often, in fact. And not nearly often enough to make the 150,000 U.S. and coalition troops in Iraq the leading scourge of Iraq's civilians. That dishonor goes, hands down, to the insurgents. Even one incident is bad, of course, and there have been many. But civilian killings by U.S. troops are not nearly as common as the critics of the war in Iraq would like us to believe. It has become an article of faith among them that American troops have been slaughtering Iraqi civilians indiscriminately, and that one of the consequences of the war has been an unconscionable loss of life among the civilian population. It just isn't true.

The author is Rod Nordland, who just completed a stint as Newsweek's Baghdad bureau chief. Read the entire article here. Among other things Nordland examines (and debunks) the previously discredited but still oft-touted Lancet report that claims 100,000 dead civilians in Iraq. Likewise he doesn't shy away from noting the tactics used by Saddam's army in the fall of Baghdad (and by "insurgents" since) that were designed to maximize civilian casualties - a point that's been examined here previously.

To what end? Because Saddam assumed the press backlash against US forces would fuel anti-American sympathies and prevent the fall of Baghdad. But that event took a little less time (and significantly fewer casualties) than the Baathist leadership had estimated. But while the civilian casualties did not occur in the predicted numbers that didn't stop "many" from claiming they indeed had. Saddam woefully underestimated the speed and precision with which the US military would end his regime, but he was dead-on in anticipating the response of a world-wide propaganda machine and the subsequent response from those easily swayed to jihad - and other, less violent support. Thus the irony - and it's a criminal irony, to be honest - is that the inflated reports of civilian casualties go a long way towards inspiring an influx of foreign fighters to Iraq, and thus more civilian casualties there.

And elsewhere for that matter. A point not lost on Arthur Chrenkoff:

We are told that London bombings are a result of Tony Blair's decision to participate in the illegal invasion of Iraq. We are told that the continuing occupation of Iraq, and the carnage and humiliation inflicted upon Iraqi people by the United States, Great Britain and other occupying powers have radicalized some British Muslims to such extent as to push them into becoming suicide bombers on the buses and subways of their adopted country (in some cases their country of birth).

There are 250,000 Iraqis living in Great Britain - that's quarter of a million people, one of the biggest communities in Iraqi diaspora, and just under one sixth of the total British Muslim population of some 1.6 million.

So why, among the original 7/7 bombers, the next lot of recently captured bombers, and all the other people arrested in connection with the attacks, aren't there any British Iraqis?

Arthur's follow up post to that is also a must read, and speaks more directly to the situation in Iraq. Having robbed him of the above quote I'll urge you to follow that link.

And by all means read the entire Newsweek piece too.

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On a side note - kudos to Newsweek for an innovation. Each of their on-line stories now includes technorati links to every blog that comments on that story - here's the link page for those writing on the above piece. The "front page" of the Newsweek site also includes a list of their "most-blogged about articles". Few blogs offer that much trackback so easily accessible - well done.



Posted by Greyhawk / August 1, 2005 6:47 PM | Permalink

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This is an outstanding post. My hat is off to Nordland, Chrenfoff, and Greyhawk.

And Newsweek is going to get more bloggy. Wonderful.

John

In terms of the information war, if we want to decrease support for the insurgents in and around the communities, we should focus on magnifying these attacks on civilians. You might notice that the last time an attack killed 30 children, zarqawi's group was quick to claim it wasn't them. There is a real question in Islamic jurisprudence about the legality and morality of killing non-combatant "innocence" particularly when they are Muslms themselves.

There is also questions regarding the legality and morality of suicide bombers. Not just from us, but from Islamic Jurisprudence. Most scholars are careful not to approve of them but also not to claim they are illegal or un allowed by Islamic law. Mainly because these characters know that many clerics and scholars believe that suicide is a sin, but they are willing to accept the fact that their Muslim brothers may actually be spending time in hell in order to further their cause.

Of course, there are those that insist that the "first drop of a martyr's blood" cleanses his sins which is why they often participate in some truly gratuitous sin before they explode themselves including pre or extra marital sex, drugs, alcohol, gluttony and a few other blasphemous activities.

Anyway, we want to defeat these guys ideologically, there has to be more focus on what is wrong with their claims within the Islamic world and not just about democracy and freedom.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004