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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! July 31, 2005 The Reality Of Being 'Over There' without a ClueBy GreyhawkCan you count on reporters to provide the unvarnished truth about Iraq? Are they familiar with the troops that are so often the subject of their reports? Or do they subscribe to some pre-conceived, deeply ingrained prejudice about the situation? I think this offers insight. The Los Angeles Times polled it's staffers who have covered the U.S. military in Iraq for their opinions of the TV show "Over There". In response to the question "Do the characters seem real?" Five out of six said "yes". We rounded up MilBlog response to the program here. The main complaint from those reviews was that the characters are simple-minded cliches - caricatures of real people. "Dope-smoking Black Guy" "Screaming Sarge" "Stupid Loo-tenant" "College Boy" "Ignorant Patriotic Texan" etc etc. I suppose, as with every aspect of the war on terror, the reporters and the actual participants have different points of view. Draw your own conclusions. Posted by Greyhawk / July 31, 2005 5:03 PM | Permalink 4 TrackBacksIt’s not very favorable. Greyhawk has a roundup of MilBlog reactions. Read More ....a disproportionate burden of the casualties in the war on terror. That is what the headlines should read, but... Read More On the milblog "The Mudville Gazette" (if you don't know what milbogs are, go back to playing with your fingerpaints) Greyhawk looks at the different perceptions of Iraq. While the soldiers seem to think they are making a difference, the... Read More Counter-guerilla cascades; Iraqi unemployment, economic growth; Zakaria on talks with Ba'athists; Talks Does al-Sadr own the Basra police?; Iraq & Syria; Algeria & Algeria; JAG promotion questioned; Strategy review; PA's idiot LtG; Over There underwhel... Read More 6 Comments |
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AFGHANISTANSuicide attackers killed in Afghanistan -- [CNN] US kills 8 terrorists in 2 new airstrikes in North Waziristan -- [LWJ - Bill Roggio] S.N.A.B.U. = Situation Normal All BAF-fed Up -- [Afghanistan My Last Tour - in Afghanistan] Post Office Doesn't Like Me -- [Afghanistan My Last Tour - in Afghanistan] Danger Room Explainer: Outsourced Intel in Afghanistan -- [Danger Room] IRAQIraq Votes - Part VI -- [MEMRI] Mission Accomplished: Astroturfing Baghdad -- [Danger Room]
U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLDAllies everywhere feeling snubbed by President Obama -- [Washington Post] Chahar-Shanbeh Souri -- [Planet Iran]
WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISMIf bin Laden is found, he'll be killed, Holder says -- [AP] ACLU files lawsuit for information on US Predator program -- [Threat Matrix] SUPPORTING THE TROOPSArmy Suicides Grow, but This Soldier Was Saved -- [Politics Daily] Silver Star Winner Reprimanded for Afghan Battle -- [ABC]
MILITARYArrrrrrmy Training, SIR! -- [This Ain't Hell] WELCOME HOMEBushrod honors were not misplaced -- [Fredericksburg.com] They're Coming Home! -- [KBND]
THE MEDIA/CULTUREIt's just some ribbon. -- [From my Position...]
POLITICSGE and Ronald Reagan: The Mutual Gift That Keeps On Giving -- [Politics Daily] Petraeus Testifies About DADT
The Petraeus briefing: Biden's embarrassment is not the whole story -- [Foreign Policy Blog] HUMOR/SATIRE
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"Caricatures of real people" are what you expect in TV dramas and B-movies.
I'm curious why you use the term "war on terror" in a post about Iraq? The President has said that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and we went there to free their people, not because of the war on terror.
I'm working at a research center this summer, and spend a good part of my day reading news articles. I've realized just how much stuff gets slanted--and just how few "only the facts" stories are out there in the U.S. press. You know it's bad when al-Jazeera quotes biases from American publications. Anyway, I ran across an amazing story: "Why they hate us" (referring to the military's distaste for the press)http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/editorial/12114580.htm
I really don't understand the Milblog dogpile on "Over There." Yes, we all know the show isn't an accurate depiction of the war or most of the service members fighting in it. What do you expect from Hollywood?
There were also inaccuracies in Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers and Black Hawk Down. In order to tell a story, Hollywood routinely changes the facts (and sometimes even the laws of physics) to create something it deems entertaining. This is nothing new, and it is not something that affects only war movies/TV shows. Do you really think "The Perfect Storm" was an accurate depiction of the final voyage of the Andrea Gail? Considering there were no survivors left to tell what really happened, it's not very likely.
Give "Over There" a break. It is at least attempting to put a human face on the war. I hope it succeeds in doing so. Maybe there will be a few more people who have watched the show that will shake a service member's hand at the airport and thank him or her, even if what they saw on TV doesn't jive with the reality on the ground.
Everybody should simply turn off their TV(s). I did this years ago and I'm loving it.
i really don't have to get all worked up about the latest stupidity coming from hollywood via the moron-o-scope since I know I'll never ever see it.
sure I own a TV and yes I belong to netflix, but I have zero access to broadcast TV and simply can't imagine spending three seconds watching it.
so, turn off the TV. You'll save money. You'll have time to do something productive and best of all you'll send a message to the idiots that run the broadcasting companies.