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July 19, 2005

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Lawyers, Guns, and Money

By Greyhawk

The global war on terror isn't just about military combat. It's about global legal combat as well. In fact, many have argued that the primary approach should be one of law enforcement over military operations. Here's one such quote as a reminder:

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry said yesterday that he will treat the war on terror "primarily" as law-enforcement action even as he pledged to remain committed to Iraq and to personally plead for international help in policing and rebuilding that nation.

"In order to know who they are, where they are, what they're planning and be able to go get them before they get us, you need the best intelligence, best law-enforcement cooperation in the world," the Massachusetts senator said in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press."

There's nothing to argue with in that actual quote. Of course, there always has been a law enforcement side of the war on terror. But how well is it working? Now is as good a time as any for a progress report on that cooperative, international front.

From Europe:

German High Court Blocks Qaeda Suspect's Extradition

BERLIN, July 18 - In a ruling seen as a sharp blow to coordinated counterterrorism efforts in Europe, Germany's highest court refused Monday to turn over to Spain a citizen suspected of aiding Al Qaeda, arguing that a recent European agreement to streamline extradition procedures violated the rights of German citizens.

The case involves Mamoun Darkazanli, 46, a German of Syrian origin suspected by Spanish authorities and independent experts on terrorism of having provided logistical and financial support to Al Qaeda.

Mr. Darkazanli, who runs a trading company in Germany, is pictured on a videotape at a wedding in Hamburg in 1999 attended by two of the pilot-hijackers in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States.

Judge Baltazar Garz󮠯f Spain, using the new European procedure, issued a European warrant against Mr. Darkazanli last year, accusing him of being the "permanent interlocutor and assistant" in Europe for Al Qaeda's leader, Osama bin Laden.

But on Monday the German Constitutional Court declared the law creating the European warrant void, even though it was ratified by the German Parliament in November. The court reasoned that the law infringed on the right of every citizen of Germany, enshrined in its Basic Law, to a court hearing in this country before extradition can take place.

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"It's a dark day for the terrorist hunter," said a German counterterrorism expert, Rolf Tophoven. "We need new laws to fight terror, because otherwise we will create the impression that German law is protecting militant Islamists."

One response:
''Thank God,'' said his wife Brigitte Darkazanli, reached at the couple's Hamburg apartment by telephone after the verdict. ''When one is sitting innocent in prison it's a terrible thing ? I'm going to be glad to see him home.''
Speaking of going home, "progress" might be made for another who wants just that. From America:
Appeal Of Detained Terrorism Suspect To Be Heard Today

For more than three years, Jose Padilla, an alleged al Qaeda operative, has been held without trial, much of the time without access to a lawyer.

A former Chicago gang member and Muslim convert, Padilla was arrested at O'Hare International Airport in May 2002. A month later, he was designated an "enemy combatant" by President Bush and sent to a naval brig in South Carolina.

Today, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit will convene in Richmond to consider a question with vast implications for civil liberties and the fight against terrorism: whether in the absence of criminal charges the president can indefinitely detain a U.S. citizen captured on U.S. soil.

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Attorneys for Padilla, joined by a host of civil liberties organizations, say that his detention is illegal. If not constrained by the courts, they argue, it could lead to the military being allowed to hold anyone, from protesters to people who check out what the government considers the wrong books from the library.

See - they start by arresting the dirty bombers, then they come after the dirty books. Meanwhile, other long-demanded trials will soon be under way:
Military Tribunals To Begin For Gitmo Detainees

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld announced yesterday the go-ahead to restart the first military trials of al Qaeda terror suspects, after a U.S. appeals court endorsed President Bush's policy of treating detainees at Guantanamo Bay as enemy combatants.

The Pentagon later issued a game plan, saying 12 of the 520 prisoners at the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, suspected of being al Qaeda and Taliban members are in line to undergo military commissions to judge guilt or innocence. The Pentagon named Yemeni-born Salim Ahmed Hamdan, who is accused of being a bodyguard of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, and Australian David Hicks, suspected of being an al Qaeda fighter, as the first to go on trial.

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Mr. Rumsfeld is an architect of a major 2002 administration decision that terror suspects captured in Afghanistan would be classified as enemy combatants and not be entitled to all the legal procedures for prisoners of war under the Geneva Convention.

The policy soon came under assault from human rights groups, and a district court judge ruled that Mr. Hamdan must receive a hearing on whether he was a prisoner of war before a military tribunal is convened.

On Friday, the judge was overruled by a unanimous three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Colombia. The judges ruled that Mr. Bush had authority from Congress to set up commissions in time of war and said al Qaeda suspects are not entitled to Geneva guarantees.

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In addition to Mr. Hamdan and Mr. Hicks, the Pentagon named two detainees as facing trial: Yemeni-born Ali Hamza Ahmad Sulayman al Bahlul and Sudanese Ibrahim Ahmed Mahmound al Qosi. Each is charged with murder and conspiring to launch attacks on civilians.

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Mr. Rumsfeld made the announcement with one of Washington's closest allies in the war on Islamic terrorists, Australian Prime Minister John Howard, by his side during a visit to the Pentagon. Mr. Howard, whose government had raised objections about the commission process, gave his approval after changes were made in evidentiary procedures.

"Australia is satisfied that the military commission process in relation to David Hicks ... will provide a proper measure of justice," Mr. Howard said. "We welcome the appeals court decision in the United States, which removes a roadblock to a speedy adjudication of Mr. Hicks' position."

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In Mr. Hicks' case, the charges say he converted to Islam from Christianity in Australia. He traveled to Afghanistan in early 2001 and attended al Qaeda terrorist training camps. He engaged in combat against U.S. forces before being captured.

Which brings us to Australia:

Military Trial 'Undermines' Hicks's Defence

US Government pressure to hold a military tribunal hearing for accused terrorist David Hicks within the next few weeks is intended to undermine the Australian's defence, his US lawyer said.

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Australian Prime Minister John Howard on Monday announced Hicks's case would be heard as soon as possible.

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His US lawyer, Major Michael Mori, said the US Government was trying to force proceedings in the knowledge that preparation for Hicks's defence had not been completed.

"I still have several months of preparation to do to get ready for a commission ... I would not be ready to go to trial to give David a proper defence in several weeks; it would take several months to get ready," Major Mori told the Nine Network.

"If they started a commission in a few weeks we would be set up to fail, that would be really what they would be putting us in, a position ... to just fail.

There you have it. Sleep well, citizens of the world. Elsewhere tonight rough men stand.


Posted by Greyhawk / July 19, 2005 8:06 PM | Permalink

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While Padilla is probably guilty as hell, I'm extremely uncomfortable with the idea of a US citizen being an designated an "enemy combatant" and subject to nearly unlimited detention without a trial.

I just don't trust any government to have that kind of far-reaching power.

We do believe in Liberty in this country. That definitely puts us at a greater risk at times for a terrorist attacks. Much more so for instance than if we had a totalitarian regime in power. They do security well. But I'd rather be dead than red, as they say.

The military option is certainly more swift.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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The Mudville Gazette is written and produced by Greyhawk, who recently retired from 24 years of active duty in the US military, but will maintain this disclaimer: Unless otherwise credited, the opinions expressed are those of the author, and nothing here is to be taken as representing the official position of or endorsement by the United States Department of Defense or any of its subordinate components.

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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004