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May 14, 2005

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Shredding a Book

By Greyhawk

Around the world this week's headlines were a riot, as "a wave of anti-American demonstrations swept the Islamic world from the Gaza Strip to the Java Sea, sparked by a single paragraph in a magazine alleging that US military interrogators had desecrated the Koran." I don't live in America, so I can't gauge how much press or airtime this story is getting there. But elsewhere we learn that "President Hamid Karzai is planning an administrative shake-up after violent Afghan protests over the alleged desecration of the Koran at Guantanamo Bay left 14 dead and 120 injured".

CNN notes that "The chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff says an investigation has so far turned up no evidence of U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay desecrating the Muslim holy book, the Quran." But such denials don't carry much weight with true believers.

There's nothing new to the story, such tales of American's disrespect for Islam and abuse of Muslims have been a huge cornerstone of the post-911 Al-Qaeda recruiting drives. A California sex therapist sparked some violent responses when she posted bizarre theories about the "rape of Iraq" on her web site. In a similar episode Boston City Councilor Chuck Turner held a press conference in which he displayed graphic photos of what he claimed were US soldiers raping Iraqi women. The Boston Globe ran the pictures in a very large, above the fold front page story, but found themselves apologizing shortly thereafter when it was revealed that Turner's collection had been downloaded from an internet porn site - they were fakes. In January 2004 reports of American soldiers ripping up a Koran and desecrating a Mosque in Iraq made brief headlines, until the US released video of the raid and debunked the claims. Now Newsweek - an American magazine - apparently lends a new credence to what might be otherwise questionable reports. Here's Newsweek:

Investigators probing interrogation abuses at the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay have confirmed some infractions alleged in internal FBI e-mails that surfaced late last year. Among the previously unreported cases, sources tell NEWSWEEK: interrogators, in an attempt to rattle suspects, flushed a Qur'an down a toilet and led a detainee around with a collar and dog leash. An Army spokesman confirms that 10 Gitmo interrogators have already been disciplined for mistreating prisoners, including one woman who took off her top, rubbed her finger through a detainee's hair and sat on the detainee's lap.
A cautious reader might ask "How small was that Qur'an?? But others are a bit quicker to respond, and some have paid with their lives. More may follow, as there will likely be no "proof" that the events described in Newsweek didn't happen.

And certainly riots weren't the desired result of Newsweek's story. In fact, the overlooked final part of the offending paragraph seems to imply the purpose was to sell books:

(New details of sexual abuse?including an instance in which a female interrogator allegedly wiped her red-stained hand on a detainee's face, telling him it was her menstrual blood?are also in a new book to be published this week by a former Gitmo translator.)
It's interesting that Newsweek mentioned that - for reasons you'll soon see. The book in question is titled Inside the Wire, and an early story about it appeared in the New York Times:
SAN JUAN, P.R., Jan. 27 (AP) - Female interrogators tried to break male Muslim detainees at the United States prison camp in Guantᮡmo Bay, Cuba, by sexually touching them, by wearing miniskirts and thong underwear, and, in one case, by smearing a Saudi man's face with red ink, which he was led to believe was menstrual blood, according to part of a draft manuscript written by a former Army sergeant.

The manuscript, which was obtained by The Associated Press, was written by Erik R. Saar, who was an Arabic translator at Guantᮡmo from December 2002 to June 2003.

Mr. Saar, 29, did not provide the manuscript, but he did confirm the authenticity of nine draft pages obtained by The A.P. He asked that his hometown remain private so he would not be harassed.

The manuscript is classified as secret pending a Pentagon review for a book Mr. Saar is writing about the military's use of women as part of tougher physical and psychological interrogation tactics against terrorism suspects.

Let's review: The book was classified, but was being sent for approval for publication to the Pentagon. The AP obtained a few pages - not from Eric Saar, they're quick to point out - and published a story revealing what they contained.

It's possible that if Saar didn't release the publicity building documents then perhaps the book's actual writer did. Listed as co-author is Viveca Novak, a long-time contributor to Time magazine (which is why I said it was interesting that Newsweek mentioned the book - although they didn't include the title in their report, and didn't mention the real author's identity.)

But before looking at some of her previous work, let's see her publisher's description of her latest:

Inside the Wire is a gripping portrait of one soldier's six months at the terrorist detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba?a powerful, searing journey into a surreal world completely unique in the American experience.

In an explosive newsbreak that generated headlines all around the world, a document submitted by army Sergeant Erik Saar to the Pentagon for clearance was leaked to the Associated Press in January, 2005. His account of appalling sexual interrogation tactics used on detainees at Guantanamo Bay was shocking, but that was only one small part of the story of what he saw at Guantanamo?and the leak was only one more strange twist in his profoundly disturbing and life-changing trip behind the scenes of America's war on terror.

Oddly enough, the description fails to mention that the "document" that was "leaked" was actually a few pages of the book, submitted for Pentagon approval.

And if you scroll down to the bottom of the publisher's page you'll find an indication of the level of detailed fact checking Ms Novak brings to her work:

At pages 191-192, Inside the Wire: A Military Intelligence Soldier?s Eyewitness Account of Life at Guantanamo by Erik Saar and Viveca Novak, erroneously states that civilian interrogators hired through an army contract with CACI were in Guantanamo Bay. The book also describes the activities of two contract interrogators. CACI has unequivocally stated that it had no involvement in any interrogation operations at Guantanamo and that it had no relationship whatsoever with the civilian contract interrogators involved in the use of the interrogation techniques discussed in the book. The Penguin Press and the Authors acknowledge and regret the error. In addition, The Penguin Press and the Authors are taking a number of corrective actions, including inserting erratum slips in Penguin?s remaining copies of the book, providing erratum slips to Penguin?s accounts for insertion into books that have already been shipped, and advising media organizations that will be interviewing the authors of the error. Future printings will be corrected to address the error.
At #800 on the bestseller's list at Amazon future printings may not be necessary. This is the book that should be flushed down a toilet.

Now, back to our story. Ms Novak's career with Time gives a clear look at her approach to the story she's written - and a good indication of why she's sharing writing credits (and perhaps why most reviews fail to mention her existence). She's had problems with detaining terrorists since the earliest days of the War on Terror, expressing misgivings with the competence of the Justice Department and the Administration in general as early as November 2001. To be fair, as with so many reporters it's difficult to tell where they really stand on the war because their problem is a deep dislike of the Bush Administration. In this group Novak can claim primacy - she wrote How Ethical is the Bush Administration Anyway? Back in June 2001 when most reporters were covering shark attacks. To be completely fair, her oldest Time articles reveal her problem isn't really with the Bush Administration - she just loves to write about Republicans. (And when time permits she also covers "antiabortion forces")

All of this is perfectly fine, of course. This is America, and we all have freedom of speech, and nobody will riot in front of the offices of Time, Newsweek, or Penguin publishers over this new outrage. So cash your checks with pride, Viv. You too, Eric. The prisoners in Guantanamo may or may not get over the shame of being teased by women in thongs, but 14 Afghanis are certainly and permanently dead.

So far.

Update: Newsweek has followed up with another article devoting two paragraphs to detailing accounts of Americans desecrating the Qur'an, and acknowledging that "Such stories may spark more trouble."

Also see The Year in Pictures

Clarification: This post has been misinterpreted as implying that Eric Saar might be the source of the leak to Newsweek on the Koran incident - that was never the intention.


Posted by Greyhawk / May 14, 2005 9:35 PM | Permalink

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It is worth noting that rumors in the Muslim world have lost control many times. For example, in November 1979, false rumors that the United States had participated in the seizure of the Grand Mosque in Mecca provoked a mob attack on the U.S. embassy in Islamabad. The Pakistani government's delayed response enabled the mob to burn the embassy. Four people died, two of them U.S. nationals (one of them being a U.S. Marine).

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Just spent the last two hours trying to run this down for a column. So far, it appears that a "detainee" flushed pages down in protest hoping to clog the toilet. Leave it to Newsweek and the MSM to launch a story so inflammatory and not name a source.

God, we have two wars on our hands...and the biggest hurdle is ourselves. This will set us back back months regardless of whether or not its true or false. I've oft-maintained that the MSM does not want us (US) to win. Selling papers is the big game.

Lord help us.

There seems to be a lot of outrage at Newsweek and yet none at Dr. Rice who sold us out.

Condoleeza Rice's remarks not only lend credence to the Islamic faith, but act to legitimize the Constitution of Saudi Arabia.

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Submission of the Infidels

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Makes one wonder how big of a read Newsweek is in Pakistan, huh? I have a feeling that certain groups (maybe even the reporter) have been stoking this fire in an attempt to have that Arab street (that we've heard about for years) rise up against the US.

Awesome blogging on this story!

They "acknowledge and regret the error"??? What the heck is that crap? How do they get away with this? It seems as though the media can just print, say and broadcast anything they damn well please and on the off-chance they get caught, oh well, "we regret the error". I am so angry, I can hardly see straight. Great job you guys.

Journalists are responsible for the "truth" they create. It's bad enough when they mislead the American public, and deceptively sway them to the (liberal) mainstream media point of view.

Its' quite another when the same untruths spark protests, violence, and anti-American outrage.

Not the enemy, just on the other side.

Whatever happened to the day when reports had to confirm stories?? Todays stories of hints and allegations just turn me off of the MSM more and more. In this case, I think the Gov't of Afghanistan should sue this lady for inciting riots. This is clearly a case of irresponsible journalism.

So Mr. Saar's hometown remains "private so he would not be harassed", Ms. Novak hides behind her source and the First Amendment, and meanwhile 14 Afghanis are dead? These two selfish cowards should be the subject of a class-action lawsuit filed on behalf of the victims.

It is the same selfish cowardice that fuels their desire for our defeat. Their worldview is built upon the premise that the administration's strategy on and execution of the WOT is wrong. Above all things, they are frightened of the possibility that Bush could be right.

And what would stop American Torte Lawyers from representing the family and relatives of the dead Afghans in an American court for Newsweek's 'shouting fire in a croweded theater' action?

(So far, it appears that a "detainee" flushed pages down in protest hoping to clog the toilet.)


Yes, that is the case as I understand it also. Wonder where THAT story is, or if it's just ok for a muslim to do this.

Also worthy of note is it is apparently ok for them to burn our flag, etc.

A big (WTF?) to the fact it seems more than ok for them to decapitate Americans.

As far as I'm concerned ... none of the alleged techniques bother me even if they WERE used ... light weight at best.

Maybe they would prefer their heads chopped off with a dull knife instead ... like they do to American "detainees".

To Viveca and the staff of Newsweek: There ought to be a special award for your brand of journalism, just as there are "Razzies" for truly tasteless films. But what you did goes beyond bad taste. The bloodstains on your hands can't be washed off, so don't try to pull a Pontius Pilate or Lady Macbeth act on us. If you repent, God will probably cut you some slack, but I'm not holding my breath!

An 800 ranking on Amazon is not indicative of a poor seller. In fact that means it is selling better than all but 799 books in the United States.

A few years back I wrote a book that got to somewhere around 23,000 on the Amazon list. That was good enough to make it my publisher's best-selling book for that month. (And, this is not an unknown publisher. Rather it is on the same level as Presidio or Stackpole.) That was a good enough ranking to indicate sales that sold out the first printing and have the publishers issue a second printing.

If "Inside the Wire" really was at 800 on Amazon, the publishers would be fools not to republish it. At this point all that can be done is to watch that they *do* include the corrections.

The only reason we shouldn't desecrate a Koran is because it would, indeed, cause rioting. As we know, it caused rioting even when it didn't happen.

But get real! Humiliating somebody by destroying a book is NOT an act of torture.

I revere the Bible, but if I was questioning some nut who used Scripture to justify acts of terrorism, and if I thought I could get life-saving answers by desecrating the Bible, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Update on the story posted


When Seymour Hersch first appeard on Fox talking about Gitmo "abuse," he said his source was a Muslim FBI investigator--unnamed, of course. Couldn't it possibly be a that sympathetic ear verified these allegations?

I saw a pallet full of this book at Costco this past weekend. It must have dropped below 800 on Amazon by now.

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

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Seem far away
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