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April 25, 2005

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More From the Front

By Greyhawk

Dadmanly (a soldier in Iraq) debates yet another anti-war type blog to blog. This one, at least, has the courage to link back to Dadman.

So what's the combined impact of these online discussions on his frame of mind?

I am herewith announcing my intent to create cross-border dialog with those thoughtful and concerned liberals who are as alarmed with the current state of political discourse and discussion as I am. Please contact me with any ideas, I thought perhaps a group blog, or interest in creating such a debate space in the Blogosphere.
Best of luck Dadman - I mean that, but your recent experience makes exactly one example I know of where a lefty blogger has linked a GI in Iraq. Our reality doesn't fit the "reality-based" community.


Posted by Greyhawk / April 25, 2005 10:46 PM | Permalink

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Mudville: You should read the "lefty" blogs more. I link to soldiers in Iraq and other MILBLOGs all the time and, in fact, have a section of my blogroll for military blogs. I encourage the left to read those blogs all the time. I think it is the best way to reinforce why this militarism is destroying the Country.

Kevin,

One thing that those on the left might want to keep in mind, what have any of you done to maintain your own freedom, let alone the freedom of the rest of the nation.

Those of us who serve the country safeguard all segments of the population, even those who we might not agree with. We also follow the orders of those who we might not agree with or even respect.

It is our service and sacrifice to the whole country that maintains all of the freedoms and rights that were won by earlier generations of Americans who put on a uniform, picked up a gun and met our country's enemies on forign battlefields that you fear to tread.

The next time you choose to bitch about the "militarism that is destroying the country", thank a veteran who did his part in keeping this country the LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME TO A FEW BRAVE SOULS that keep the rest of you safe at night.

What have you do to serve your country today?

RHSOB-

www.boomantribune.com has an Iraqi Blogger section on its blogroll and has invited Lt. C. on the site as a guest.

The majority of members opposed the war in Iraq, and are opposed to the current policies of the Bush administration.

As the site administrator, though, I encourage dialogue, and try to present the perspectives of soldiers serving abroad.

I have been having a very enjoyable debate with The Liberal Anti-War Avenger. The third part of our extended debate can be found at http://dadmanly.blogspot.com/2005/04/debate-with-liberal-avenger-part-three.html ">Debate with Liberal Avenger Part Three.

Mudville readers should stay tuned, the Avenger and I are nearing final discussions on a joint blog debate-space. Details to follow.

RHSOB:

Well, I served in the Army for 9.5 years and was in the first Gulf War. Does that meet your litmus test? Is it OK, now that I am 43, that I leave the fighting to the younguns? I am not against defending freedom (obviously, I spent the first 9.5 years of my working life doing it) what I question is what we are doing in Iraq? Can we not have an intelligent debate about that without the right going to, "What have you done to defend your Country" rhetoric?

As I posted on my Blog, 9/11 was financed by the Saudis, the majority of the terrorists were Saudis, and they were educated in Saudi Arabia. So, what do we do about it? We invade Iraq! Huh?

The points I have made all along is that it is precisely the defense of this Country I care about. While we are bogged down in a war that is meaningless, the Al Qaeda leader is still at large, not a lot has changed in Saudi Arabia, North Korea is arming itself to the teeth, and the volunteer Army is disintegrating before our very eyes.

My question is: How does this help our defense?

RHSOB:

You say, "thank a veteran who did his part in keeping this country the LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME TO A FEW BRAVE SOULS that keep the rest of you safe at night."

I accept your thank you. You are welcome.

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004