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April 19, 2005

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Quick Question

By Greyhawk

If you were going to write a newspaper article about blogs from soldiers in Iraq, don't you think it would be a good idea to mention one such blog in your article? I mean, just one? Brad Knickerbocker didn't.

Other than that minor complaint I can't find anything wrong with this article about Soldier blogs from Iraq.

Well, maybe the title could have been changed...

Oh, and there's another function of GI blogs from Iraq that Brad could have mentioned...

Update: Okay - so there are a few other little problems with the story.

"The danger is that the soldier becomes distracted worrying about something back home and makes a mistake that puts his life or the lives of his companions at additional risk," says Colonel Smith.

That concern can work in the other direction as well, especially with the many websites in cyberspace that can paint a dire picture in Iraq - whether true or not.

(For example, this reporter received an e-mail from the young wife of a marine in Iraq. She'd come across a website reporting the recent capture and execution of 15 American troops. "Maybe you can let me know if you have heard anything like this," she said in an e-mail. "I just wish I didn't stumble across the website, because it makes me all nervous and paranoid. I really need to stop reading this stuff!")

What stuff would that be Brad? Are you implying she was reading a soldier's blog? Which one? I'll bet a nickel she was reading a jihaddi website like the one providing this update for the past few days 'resistance' activity:
US stages airborne invasion of al-Qa?im.

In a dispatch posted at 10:15am Mecca time Monday morning, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that US aggressor troops staged an air drop of more than 700 American invaders into the middle of the liberated city of al-Qa?im a short while before. The correspondent quoted witnesses as saying that the skies of the city were covered with parachutes carrying US Marines.

At least 13 American soldiers killed in Resistance bombardment of US base in al-Hadithah.

Thirteen US troops were killed in al-Hadithah in western Iraq at dawn on Monday in a violent Iraqi Resistance bombardment on their base, according to an admission by Iraqi puppet forces.

Nine US troops killed in car bomb attack on US troop truck in al-Khalidiyah Sunday.

An Iraqi Resistance martyrdom fighter drove an explosives-laden car into a US column transporting a large number of American Marines towards al-Fallujah at 5pm Sunday afternoon local time.

Eight US troops killed in bombing near Jordan border Sunday.

A high-explosive Iraqi Resistance bomb blew up in the middle of a road in the ar-Rutakiyah area north of the town of ar-Rutbah, not far from the Jordanian frontier, destroying a US armored personnel carrier on Sunday. The blast left eight US troops dead and three more wounded.

Resistance bombs take out US mine sweeper.

Iraqi Resistance forces planted a bomb in the path of an American mine sweeping vehicle as it did its routine daily check of streets in the Abu Ghurayb area just west of the occupied Iraqi capital on Monday...

Then Resistance fighters, hidden behind a building by the side of the road opened fire on the vehicle with armor-piercing rockets, totally destroying it and killing all six US troops aboard.

Brad neglected to tell us the site his unnamed "young wife of a Marine in Iraq" was reading - could it be because it was the one linked above? And is he trying to imply the source of the "capture and execution of 15 American troops" quote was a military blog? (For the record: my guess is the answer is "yes")

Update 2: Earlier this year, the Army ordered Maj. Michael Cohen, a doctor with a combat support hospital unit near Mosul, to pull the plug on his blog. I've heard this before, of course. But can anyone prove it? (Be sure and read the blog in question before answering).

So, other than a misrepresentation about the Army's response to milblogs, a deceptive passage about websites painting a dire picture of Iraq, and a lack of any examples of blogs from GI's currently in Iraq, I have no problems with this article about soldier blogs from Iraq.

So far.

BTW, here are a few GIs from Iraq, (just off the top of my head), that I have featured From the Front:

Major K

Ma Deuce Gunner

Thunder6 of 365 and a Wake Up

Boots on the Ground

Dadmanly

A Day In Iraq

Opinion Inc.

Phil and Becky

Assumption of Command

Blog Machine City

This is Your War

Who's Your Baghdaddy

Reverse Retna from the Sandlot

My Vacation in Iraq

Steven Kiel


Posted by Greyhawk / April 19, 2005 6:09 PM | Permalink

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I see Brad also chooses to promote the myth that the Army doc's site has been shut down. I bet he knows that's not true, since he doesn't actually say it, simply repeats that story about the notice the doc put up. Like his earlier article Brad wants to paint a picture of doom and gloom from the troops at the front, but it just ain't so. I haven't found a military blogger yet who Brad would find quotable.

Okay I'm not getting this. The explanation of why Maj. Cohen shut his blog down is found here:
http://www.67cshdocs.com/index.htm. Here's part of what he stated:

"I have some very unfortunate news. Levels above me have ordered, yes ORDERED, me to shut down this website. They cite that the information contained in these pages violates several Army Regulations. I certainly disagree with this. However, I have made a decision to turn off the site pending further investigation as to whether or not I have violated these Army Regulations."

The CSH journalist appears to have this story right or am I missing something here?

As for the first criticism, he mentions several blogs by name and url.

Also, I think it was clear from the article that internet rumors in general are what can worry family members, not rumors from a particular blog. Obviously, the family member was getting rumors from a jihadi site, but they would still be nervewracking.

There was no 'doom and gloom' about this article at all. I'd say it was a pretty nuetral all the way around.

The fact of the matter is that this writer doesn't indicate he took the time to talk to any of the bloggers. Also, those of you defending the reporter, poke some holes in the point Greyhawk has about the section in the article about the soldier's wife.

Scribo:

I agree with you and Greyhawk in reference to the 15 dead soldiers rumor. The reporter certainly should have clarified the source of the rumor or at least indicated it didnt come from milblogs (unless he has evidence it does and then he should give such evidence).

I am not trying to defend anybody. I am just trying to figure out the rationale behind the 2nd update. It seems to me the reporter reported the Cohen story correctly but perhaps I am misinterpreting Cohen's website. Perhaps you have an explanation?

There is no reason to drop paratroops into al Qaim. The Marines live down the road and can roll into town if needed......

Peter

The website isn't down and never has bee. The doc put a message up claiming he was ordered to do so, but he never did. Why is it newsworthy that a doc put a message up like that?

The article mentions a few blogs, none of which are done by soldiers in Iraq. The title of the article indicates it's about soldiers in Iraq. The problem with sloppy reporting like Brad's (or intentionally deceptive reporting) is that it deceives people like you.

I found the CS Monitor article fair. The vast majority of blogs are intended for "immediate friends and family" only. It would appear that the CS Monitor article was addressing those blogs.


A small number of blogs do give out information that shouldn't be given out. I won't link, but there is one blog that had a post decribing the death of a Female Soldier at FOB XX in rather graphic detail. My Female Soldier at FOB XX was in "comms lockdown". It was a stressfull 72 hours for me. (I suspect the blogger in question is part of a helicopter crew assigned to another FOB that wasn't locked down)

As far as the Doc in Mosul, I remember having read his blog and thought that some of the information on it should have been restricted to the "Notification Officer" and the Family's.

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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004