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February 18, 2005

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Target: Media

By Greyhawk

But not the way you think.

I intended Targeting Journalists to be a starting point for a discussion bridging a gap between media and blogs on the issues raised by Eason Jordan at Davos. That post featured my online dialogue with Jules Crittenden - but one GI talking with one reporter means little unless it sparks more discussion and examination. That's why it's gratifying to see a Mudville link in the Christian Science Monitor piece asking the question Did US military target journalists in Iraq?

The answer is "no" of course, but the issue is one that won't go away. Regardless of the number of questions answered, the fact that there were questions will be the focus of much reporting on this topic.

Update: Communication is the key to understanding, of course, even in the internet age. After all, if people simply communicated better they might not be so surprised upon discovering that their long-held prejudices are unfounded, that their opinions are based on bad information or the limitations of their background and experience, all of which tend to inculcate an excessive eagerness to accept claims like "soldiers target journalists" as gospel without too much deep thought on the issue by the individual.

Guess what Mary Beth Sheridan, a reporter from the Washington Post, learned when she was embedded with our troops in Iraq?

That they are not, in fact, "blood-thirsty maniacs."

I found that out the other morning at a Columbia Journalism School First Amendment breakfast. The topic under discussion was "reporters as citizens," and Sheridan was on the panel.

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In fact, she said, they were "really decent people." And even "sweet." Of course, after being shot at they were eager to shoot back ? a military attitude that seemed to surprise her.

That was reported by Myrna Blyth in NRO, but what I found more interesting was her description of the broader topic being addressed by the "breakfast club"

These First Amendment breakfasts are held about once a month, and when there is a superstar journalist, or the topic is full of buzz, they are fairly crowded affairs. But on this Tuesday morning, there were plenty of extra croissants to go round.

The moderator, as usual, was lawyer and Columbia journalism professor Floyd Abrams, and he started the proceedings with a couple of personal anecdotes. First of all, he recalled his most famous First Amendment triumph, the "Pentagon Papers" case. He described Chief Justice Warren Berger's dissenting opinion, which he quoted in part, as a "whine." Then he went on to tell a long anecdote about a Fred Friendly panel, sometime in the past, that included Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, and a wounded Vietnam veteran.

Abrams recalled that Friendly, as he often did, presented the panel with a hypothetical scenario that there was a civil war between the northern and southern sections of an unnamed country, with America helping the southern forces. An American journalist, to his surprise, was invited to go on patrol with the northern forces. While on the mission, the journalist realized the northern forces intended to attack a group of Americans. What should the journalist do?

Too bad the crowd was thin when journalistic ethics was the theme - I guess most don't need the lesson. Where do they find such dull topics for discussion? ;)


Posted by Greyhawk / February 18, 2005 8:24 PM | Permalink

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presented the panel with a hypothetical scenario that there was a civil war between the northern and southern sections of an unnamed country, with America helping the southern forces.

the country was not unnamed.
north and south kosan.
i remember seeing the discussion.
the marine major that told mike wallace "you disgust me" was definitely in the minority: at this point in our history. i on the other hand, was glad he had the testicular fortitude to say it.

Hopefully she'll look at things and report them a little differently. I wouldn't hold my breath but she might be salvageable. I find myself comforted she found our military "overwhelming".
They are good decent human beings with a mission to fulfill. Sometimes it takes bloodthirst and sometimes compassion. What makes them so special is knowing the difference.

I think you've missed a gut reality. Its true some journalists may be persuaded by some communication but many don't really care - hard facts have always confronted them yet in the end they've always managed to turn their face. Yet it seems any time a member of the MSM has been persuaded at one point to acknowledge a bankrupt bias, voices of optimism from the blogosphere etc. ring aloud there's hope.

Their breakfast club gatherings where they can dominate are nothing more than a pat on the back preservation and if they didn't have continuous means of reaffirmation amongst like minded peers they would wither from an identity crisis. But they're elitists who will always stick together. They'll continue to tote the party line, being praised and paid with resources all but endless.

You know, there are some slanders you deal with by denying them the honor of being repeated. The notion that GIs are targeting and murdering journalists and torturing them by the dozen, as a matter of policy, is one such lie.

To ask in a headline whether journalists have made it on to the priority target list, is to grace a debased slander with much more credibility than it deserves.

Christian Science Monitor, my ass.

More like Atheistic Conjecture Speculator.

These mirble vultures say all sorts of lies about our men and women in uniform critsize our new weapons system then expect the GIs to treat them nicely? why dont those journalists just stick it up their headlines

It is an interesting coincidence that Grayhawk first found the original transcript and then found a current day reference to it in an entirely different place for entirely different reasons.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004