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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! February 8, 2005 Who Says?By GreyhawkIt's time for another Mudville mini quiz on current events. (See our previous here.) Don't worry - it's easy. Most blog readers will do well on this test, I'm sure. But then, get a non-blog reading friend to take it too. Compare your results, and if they do poorly, ask them if they think it matters. Or at least, matters more than the upcoming trial of Michael Jackson. If nothing else, you might get an interesting water cooler or email discussion going. Here are the questions. In each instance, simply provide the source of the quote. Answers will be found below, with links to full details: 1. Iraqis were forced to vote or else their food rations would be withheld! "'Two of the food dealers I know told me personally that our food rations would be withheld if we did not vote,' said Saeed Jodhet, a 21-year-old Iraqi student who voted in the Hay al-Jihad district. Several Iraqis said before the election day that they were afraid they could be denied their monthly food rations if they did not vote. Thus they decided to sign voter registration forms to be able to get their food supplies. According to analysts, this raises concerns about tactics used by the U.S.-backed Iraqi interim government in an attempt to increase voter turnout." 2. Donald Rumsfeld: The mastermind behind 'terrorist attacks' "The Bush administration has consistently stated that the United States of America is under a threat of attacks from "terrorists". Washington could very well be right...But from who precisely? If and when attacks that target the U.S. occur, they will be instigated under the orders of Donald H. Rumsfeld, the American Secretary of Defense." 3. US troops are targeting and killing journalists in Iraq "Twelve journalists who had not only been killed by US troops in Iraq, but they had in fact been targeted. He repeated the assertion a few times, which seemed to win favor in parts of the audience (the anti-US crowd) and cause great strain on others. " 4. 9/11 Victims were "little Eichmanns" who deserved what they got: "The [Pentagon] and those inside comprised military targets, pure and simple. As to those in the World Trade Center: Well, really. Let's get a grip here, shall we? True enough, they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break. They formed a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire--the 'mighty engine of profit' to which the military dimension of U.S. policy has always been enslaved--and they did so both willingly and knowingly. If there was a better, more effective, or in fact any other way of visiting some penalty befitting their participation upon the little Eichmanns inhabiting the sterile sanctuary of the twin towers, I'd really be interested in hearing about it."" 5. Christians control congress and want to destroy the environment to hasten Christ's return: "Remember James Watt, President Ronald Reagan's first secretary of the interior? My favorite online environmental journal, the ever-engaging Grist, reminded us recently of how James Watt told the U.S. Congress that protecting natural resources was unimportant in light of the imminent return of Jesus Christ. In public testimony he said, "after the last tree is felled, Christ will come back." "...millions of Christian fundamentalists may believe that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed - even hastened - as a sign of the coming apocalypse. "...we're not talking about a handful of fringe lawmakers who hold or are beholden to these beliefs. Nearly half the U.S. Congress before the recent election - 231 legislators in total and more since the election - are backed by the religious right." Answers: 1. Iraqis were forced to vote or else their food rations would be withheld! - al Jazeera 2. Donald Rumsfeld is the mastermind behind 'terrorist attacks' - al Jazeera again! 3. US troops are targeting and killing journalists in Iraq - Eason Jordan, Chief News Executive of CNN. 4. 9/11 Victims were "little Eichmanns" who deserved what they go "Indian" activist Ward Churchill, professor at the University of Colorado at Boulder 5. Christians control congress and want to destroy the environment to hasten Christ's return: Former PBS "news" man Bill Moyers in his newspaper column. How did you do? How did your non-blog reading friends do? How do you think citizens of other countries would score? These sorts of comments play well to an international audience - bear in mind that Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 was enormously popular overseas. In fact, some of these quotes were specifically "targeting" an "international" audience; in the pre-internet, pre-blog days they would have received very little stateside attention outside of a few select venues. Recall the day immediately after 9/11, when many raised the loaded question of "why do they hate us?" The answer seems clearer with each passing day. Posted by Greyhawk / February 8, 2005 1:07 AM | Permalink 1 TrackBackGreyhawk and Mrs. Greyhawk are on fire over at the Mudville Gazette. US Raid Frees Hostages (no journalists were killed) Sucking All The Fun Out Of War (I hate it when that happens) Who Says? (This something that Greyhawk started Read More 9 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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You said, "in the pre-internet, pre-blog days they would have received very little stateside attention outside of a few select venues."
I think that's still true today. A vast majority of Americans will not know the answers to any of your questions (although I suspect many people would guess al-Jazeera for each.)
I don't mean to throw cold water on your argument about why the rest of the world has the opinion of America that they do. I just don't see things changing any time soon. Blogs are nothing but "a few select venues."
I took a look at both Al Jazeera articles, and they both appear to be republished from other sources. This is cited at the bottom of the articles. #1 is from CounterPunch.org and #2 is from Dahrjamailiraq.com.
Man, I just answered "NYTimes" for all of 'em...
I spend 2-3 hours a day reading blogs yet...i answered AP to all of them.
Ed,
You may be correct, but you forget to mention a key point- the blogosphere is still in it's infancy. In 1996, the Internet itself was merely a "select venue." Now it's obviously much more than that. Look at the blogosphere now compared to one year ago (pre-Rathergate). 2004 was by many accounts the "year of the Blog"- and for good reason. Good folks like the Greyhawk's are trailblazers, and their efforts have already changed the face of the "information age." The future may be wide open, but I'm seeing the word "Blog" written all over it. Do not underestimate the power of the blogosphere, my friend. We're just gettin' started...
You forgot to mention that #1 was absolutely accurate. Under Saddam Hussein's regime, food rations were indeed subject to being withheld if any member of a family was not accounted for in the last two elections (hence 99.7% and 100% participation rates).
I'm an Englishman who until 9/11 more or less believed everything I saw and heard on the BBC News. After 9/11 I did some research into Islam, discovered Jihad Watch on the net and, in the last year or so, have spent at least one hour a day trawling the blogosphere. I now only watch the BBc for laughs. I knew the answer to 4 out of the five questions - my non blog reading mate in the US knew none of the answers. He also hadn't heard of Ward Churchill. I think the blogosphere is the most informative development since the internet came into being. I no longer have to rely on the slanted (but supposedly "always impartial") views of the BBC or the rest of the msm. Thank God for Mudville Gazette, Tim Blair, IraqTheModel, Michelle Malkin, Harry's Place, LGF, Chrenkoff and the many others who have given me a clearer view of what is really happening out there.
Logan3:
Thank you for taking the time to read the blogs and get more information than "The Beeb" will put out... now, go and get the rest of your pablum-fed countrymen to start reading!
Oh, and thank Tony Blair for the rest of us, and tell him to "Stand Tall!"
Igor
It should also be noted that Aljazeera.com is not affiliated with the satellite TV station. In fact, this publishing company is actually based in Dubai:
http://www.aljazeera.com/about.asp