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January 31, 2005Greetings from a land of bent and broken things.By GreyhawkSome of you may have noticed I didn't post my own thoughts on yesterday's elections. My reason is simple: it wasn't my day. I watched through tearing eyes. Yes, this old trooper shed a few tears of joy at what had happened. Like the amazing fall of the Berlin wall, the peaceful "revolutions" that freed Eastern Europe, this was another great victory in my lifetime, and one I felt a little bit involved in. This wasn't George Bush's victory, this wasn't America's victory, this certainly wasn't my victory, this was a victory for the people of Iraq and those who love freedom everywhere. I was an observer, a very close observer, but an observer nonetheless. I liked what I saw. Now note the header above. The work has just begun. I see bent and broken, scarred and ruined things here every day. Many were damaged years ago. 1991? 2003? In between? After? It's often hard to tell. Many will be fixed in time, others are beyond repair. Now substitute the word "people" for "things" in the preceding and read it again. Meet a group of Iraqi people and one will tell you how grateful he is that we have given him freedom. He will tell you he lived in fear for his life every day under Saddam. His joy is real, and fundamental, and obvious. Then the next will tell you he lost his entire family in the invasion. He's glad Saddam's gone, but he's paid a price that few would be willing to pay were they given the option. What would you say to him? "Sorry about that. But cheer up, old boy! Other than that you must admit this freedom thing is pretty great, eh?" No - there's nothing that can be said. He may or may not hate the United States, he may blame Saddam for what happened, but here is a man with the rest of his life before him, and he'll live each day without his family. The greater good, of course, is served. Many Americans died in this endeavor too; such things temper the celebration. I think Iraqi blogger Alaa offers the right perspective: My condolences to the Great American people for the tragic recent losses of soldiers. The blood of Iraqis and Americans is being shed on the soil of Mesopotamia; a baptism with blood. A baptism of a lasting friendship and alliance, for many years to come, through thick and thin, we shall never forget the brave soldiers fallen while defending our freedom and future. I'd add our Coalition allies to that sentiment too. So amidst the triumph, I saw yesterday as a Memorial Day, of a sort, for those many who fell to make it possible. Some might try and use those deaths for their own ends, or to justify their belief that we should never have walked this path. Such people don't believe in heroes. They can't even comprehend this simple fact; no one is more opposed to war than the soldier. He knows the cost and has seen the carnage. But as I wrote at the top of the sidebar long ago: The Mudville Gazette is the on-line voice of an American warrior, who prefers to see peaceful change render force of arms unnecessary. Until that day he stands fast with those who struggle for freedom, strike for reason, and pray for a better tomorrow. Today we re-build broken things. Grab a hammer or get out of the way.
In my spare time here I've been reading Neal Stephenson's brilliant epic ![]() (On a recommendation by Glenn Reynolds - thanks Glenn.) Cruising along through the novel yesterday I reached this passage, a conversation between two individuals whose identities I'll leave out for this discussion (hence no spoilers will be found below. Read without fear.) In one of those somewhat rare moments when what I'm reading unexpectedly addresses something I've had on my mind, it conveyed perfectly what I'd been trying to put into words for some time. (And note that this book was published a couple of years before 9/11.) One character explains to another why he wears a medallion bearing a likeness of the Greek goddess Athena: "So anyway, you probably learned in elementary school that Athena wears a helmet, carries a shield called Aegis, and is the goddess of war and wisdom, as well as crafts - such as the aforementioned weaving. Kind of an odd combination, to say the least! Especially since Ares was supposed to be the god of war and Hestia the goddess of home economics - why the redundancy? But a lot's been screwed up in translation. See, the kind of wisdom that we associate with old farts like yours truly, and which I'm trying to impart to you here, was called dike by the Greeks. That's not what Athena was the goddess of! She was the goddess of metis, which means cunning or craftiness, and which you'll recall was the name of her mother in one version of the story... So now the connection to crafts becomes obvious - crafts are just the practical application of metis." Who indeed? Take this simple test in your home country: Complain endlessly about the fact that you don't have free speech. If no one shoots you or locks you in jail, you have free speech. If people call you an idiot, they have free speech too. And your nation is probably Athenian, and you can complain about it to your heart's content. Posted by Greyhawk / January 31, 2005 11:19 PM | Permalink 15 Comments |
November 18, 2009Dawn Patrol 11/18/2009 [Mrs Greyhawk]
Welcome to the Dawn Patrol, our daily roundup of information on the War on Terror and other topics - from the MilBlogs and various sources around the world. If you're a blogger, you can join the conversation. If you link to any of these stories, add a link to the Dawn Patrol too and your trackback will be added to the list. Hat Tips to the Dawn Patrol are greatly appreciated.Refresh for updates.
AFGHANISTAN/PAKISTANBoondoggle -- [3rd Time, New Country - in Afghanistan] Clinton in Kabul for Karzai's inauguration -- [Foreign Policy - AfPak] The war of leaks -- [Foreign Policy - AfPak] Ridding Afghanistan of Corruption Will Be No Easy Task -- [Los Angeles Times] Afghan Minister Accused of Taking Bribe -- [Washington Post] Vision for Victory, Part I -- [Washington Times] U.S. Turns to Local Guns-for-Hire to Guard Afghan Outpost -- [Danger Room - Noah Shachtman] NATO Chief Confident Afghanistan Will Have More Troops -- [Voice of America] Germany to extend Afghanistan mission another year -- [AP] Pakistani Successes May Sway US Troop Decision -- [New York Times] Where are Taliban and al Qaeda commanders, US media asks Pak -- [Daily News & Analysis] Pakistani Army Shows Off Captured Taliban Posts -- [Washington Post] IRAQIraqi Kurds Warn of Election Boycott in Dispute Over Seats - [Washington Post] US has time to reconsider Iraq drawdown plan-Odierno -- [Reuters] A few words from medics for the 41st Brigade -- [The Oregonian] Goodbye to Iraq, and thanks -- [The Oregonian] U.S. AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLDUS, China in Strained Diplomatic Embrace -- [Wall Street Journal] Obama: 'We've restored America's standing' -- [CNN] Somali Pirates : Maersk Alabama Attacked, Fights Back -- [Eagle Speak] Iranian COS Warns Russia: Your Security Is Tied To Ours -- [Memri Blog]
WAR ON TERROR /TERRORISMSuspected Fort Hood Shooter Believed to Be Self-Radicalized -- [Wall Street Journal] Guantánamo Won't Close by January, Obama Says -- [NY Times] SUPPORTING THE TROOPS...OR NOTNo Man Left Behind -- [Knottie's Niche] LTC Tim Karcher Update -- [Soldiers' Angels Germany] Support SA while Christmas shopping this year! -- [Soldiers' Angels Germany] Trees for Troops: Helping Military Families -- [AdAge.com] FOX 5 Special: I-Team VA Loans -- [FOX News] A FOX 5 I-Team investigation uncovered allegations of a nationwide scheme by banks and mortgage companies to defraud U.S. military veterans. The scheme, spelled out in court documents, claims banks are overcharging veterans on home refinancing loans. The question raised in a racketeering and class action law suit is how many of those loans involved banks defrauding U.S. military veterans. MILITARYMuslim discrimination in the U.S. military. Not. -- [Castra Praetoria] Time to revisit firearms policies on military posts -- [Atlanta Journal Constitution] Army's Record Suicide Rate 'Horrible,' General Says -- [Washington Post]
WELCOME HOMEVeterans' descendants welcome troops home to Fort Campbell -- [Clarksville Leaf Chronicle] 'Greywolf' Among First CAV Troops to Return Home -- [DVIDS] THE MEDIAWhere are Taliban and al Qaeda commanders, US media asks Pak -- [Daily News & Analysis] Army officials said that they have killed as many as 550 Taliban militants a month after the military began its campaign into the lawless territory, yet they acknowledge that hundreds, perhaps thousands more have melted away.
POLITICSRepublicans Criticize Obama's Call to Delay Hill Inquiries on Fort Hood -- [Washington Post] HUMOR / SATIRE
Iraq, Afghanistan, War, Terrorism, Military, Politics, Media, MilBlogs, dawn patrol Mudville
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Greyhawk, I bow in humility before another amazing post!
Yesterday felt a bit like Memorial day to me, too--very bittersweet, inspiring reverence, and gratitude, and more...
Greyhawk,
"Today we re-build broken things. Grab a hammer or get out of the way."
To that end, what can someone stateside do to help?
Try something here:
http://www.spiritofamerica.net/projects/75
Of course, your tax dollars are also at work ;)
More here
http://www.spiritofamerica.net/site/project_overview
Greyhawk,
Thanks for the suggestion. I have donated there (and probably will again). I was thinking something more personal, something that you or the Iraqis needed that is hard to locate, tools or supplies, how-to books? :¬)
Sorry Greyhawk, don't object to your sentiments, but the book quote is almost pure cheesecake, sentimental teenage twaddle, but then again it is written by Neal Stephenson. The conclusion, that the US (only the US ??!?) beat Nazi Germany in WW2 because it built "better stuff than the Germans" is BS, until the very end, German military technology was at least as good and probably better. What the Germans could not do was make enough of it, and they did not have the manpower base (against the combined allies) to use what they could make. Good example, the Sherman was considerably inferior in everything except speed versus a Mark V or Mark VI (Panther or Tiger) tank, but the US made a hell of a lot more Shermans than the Germans made Mk IV's, V's, and VI's. What the US excelled at was production, sure they did, by the end make some really nice equipment (as did the UK and the USSR), but that wasn't their killer advantage.
Greyhawk, this is an amazing piece, and I have already linked to it. I suggest you send it to Victor Davis Hanson and ask for some of his input on this, as it is right up his alley.
Ed Snack, in trying to prove your point you actually proved Greyhawks point. Go back and read your comment again.
Ed
No, those few paragraphs didn't tell the full story of WWII. In fact, the entire 900+ page book didn't tell the full story of the war. But arguably you've further advanced the concept, not refuted it. I'd counter that the Germans were incapable of achieving a technological edge that would have overcome their other shortfalls. And the book doesn't ignore the allied contribution to the effort, if that conversation seemed to it's only the viewpoint of the character speaking. It's a work of fiction by a highly imaginative author and the concept is sound, the point being the US isn't a warlike nation in the Ares mode.
Hi mom!
I hope you pursue a writing career when you're a civvy.
Ed,
I'm not a military expert, but I also think you are wrong. Anyone feel to correct me (like I have to ask!) A few examples:
The Germans were very clever with some of their technology, and were, in fact, ahead in a few areas. Part of the reason for that was the earlier start. They were GEARING UP for war for years while the rest of the world was trying to avoid it. When the war began in earnest, though, which side proved to be the most clever?
The Allies were able to, in the space of a few years, master mass production, radar, casualty management, naval damage control, fighter tech (P-51's proved much more valuable to the war effort than the expensive and fragile German jets), bomber tech, ship-building, anti-sub technics, logistics, etc.
The Sherman tank example you cite is a good point, but for who? Yes, the Sherman was inferior to the best tanks out there, German, Russian, but only in pure firepower and armor terms. But, is that all that need be considered? When you examine a weapon, you need to examine its intended purpose, and all of its parameters.
While the Sherman could not stand up to the German tanks you cite, they also were easier to maintain, could travel faster and farther and were EVERYWHERE! While it was nice for the Germans to have monstrosities like the Tiger, they were of no help if they could not get to the fight. The Tiger needed to move by rail over anything more than a short distance, suffered alot of wear, and was not easily replaced.
In contrast, mass-produced Shermans running amok across Europe allowed the Allies to maintain flexibility and resilience with their armies the Germans could not match. Germans troops ended up facing enemy armor everywhere often without armor of their own. Talk about unmatched. The Germans were building tanks for slug-matches, and the Allies were building tanks for rope-a-dope. We all know who got knocked out.
In short, Ares drove a tiger, Athena drove a dozen Shermans...
Da's tanks were superior, and thats why I'm President of the North African Reich to this day.
Tremendous post, Greyhawk. It reminds me of that old accusation how some people purportedly think that "might makes right." The version I heard that's always stuck with me is "might for right." That seems a better candidate for Athena's motto.
As for the beginning of your post, I admire your forthrightness and courage. The costs must be borne in this fallen world, and even great victory cannot be won without great loss. And then you strip away all the poetry and get down to the level of blood and fear and danger--places where you, your fellow soldiers, and all these brave Iraqis are living. Again, I humbly thank you and all like you who are doing what we back home do not.
Bravo! This is a good description of the roles of Ares and Athena in their shared role as war deities.
Ares is tactical. Athena is strategic.