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January 30, 2005

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Hawks Don't Talk About Iraq

By Greyhawk

Matthew Yglesias:

Looks reasonably successful so far, no mass casualties, turnout low only in a few trouble spots. It's time to prepare for three weeks of gloating from the hawks before they realize that nothing has really changed and they return to previous hawk practice of not mentioning Iraq.

Not sure which "hawks" aren't mentioning Iraq, but we 'Hawks do occasionally discuss it here.


Posted by Greyhawk / January 30, 2005 7:32 PM | Permalink

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Iraqi's Re-Write Their Destiny from SlagleRock's Slaughterhouse on January 31, 2005 3:46 AM

Millions Of Iraqi's Cast Ballots Despite Violence BAGHDAD, Iraq — For the first time in more than 50 years, Iraqis cast ballots in democratic elections Sunday and took the first steps to declaring how they wanted Iraq to be governed.... Read More

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Over at Democratic Underground, bile duct of the uber-left, they're busily constructing the Alternate Reality. Karl Rove's up to his usual election tricks, the turnout figures are bogus, the election's fixed for U.S.-favored candidates, yada yada yada. It's remarkable to watch the A.R. scaffolding being erected in front of one's eyes.

Daily Kos is at it again too, as I talk about in this post. It, in fact, was the Left who pretty much refused to talk about the Iraqi elections, not the Right. The reason the Left accuses us of not talking about Iraq is because we aren't busy doomsaying.

John Kerry's interview on Meet the Press this morning pretty much sums up the anti-war Left's attitude towards democracy in Iraq: it's only legitimate if Kofi Annan says it is.

As my Daddy used to say, some folks just can't stand the prosperity.

Spirit of America sponsored a program on C-Span today. It was fascinating! They had folks from all over Iraq calling the show. One man in Mosul, who gave a pseudonym instead of his name (understandable) said one of the city's officials told him they thought the turn-out in Mosul was expected to be 80%. He said that around 11:00 a.m. (local), "the fear left us"! Translated, he meant they saw the brilliant job of security ING, and you guys were providing. Good Job! Huzzzah!

It's going to be a real challenge for lefties to spin the Iraqi election as a failure in any way that doesn't make them look like the sore losers and liars that they are. Anyone who values freedom, democracy and human dignity has got to be proud of what has been accomplished in Iraq.

I believe that the "true liberal" will be celebrating this victory over the terrorists with us. It is the far left, you know, the ones who support Kim Jung Il! that can't stand America. As far as I'm concerned, the more I upset them with my good cheer, the happier I am! Hehehe.

As for the ING and USA Military and the Iraqi people themselves, THANK YOU! God bless all that you have done and will do. I am very proud of you. This is your day, Iraq. You made it come true by voting. You braved the terrorists. You shoved it in their faces. Good for you. I pray you have the government for which you hoped. Make sure you read the Constition they write. Make sure it has rights for all minorities. God bless you.

I would like to include the Coalition Partners in my praise. Thank you.

Perhaps the reason they think we don't talk about Iraq is because anytime anyone has anything nice to say about Iraq they automatically tune it out. If they don't hear it, it never happened.

It's quite curious which 'hawks haven't been discussing Iraq. After all, that's one of the central discussions over here, at all the milbloggers I read, at LGF, Instapundit, Roger Simon, Michael Totten, dozens of others I read regularly, plus at my own blogs (www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/59, plus my blogspot). Could it be that there's a bit of projection going on here.

The Left will simply find a way to minimize the tremendous success of holding elections on time without giving in to the Left's demands for delaying the elections and carrying off the elections despite sporadic violence that killed three dozen Iraqis.

The Left will carry on that the elections don't mean anything, that the results were preordained, and that the US is still going to be stuck holding the bag after the votes are tallied and the new government installed (they won't call it taking office, since that would lend an air of legitimacy that the Left could never handle).

The Left will then move into a phase where they wont deal with the realities of the Iraqi elections at all. They'll ignore it altogether until some major event occurs - a major terror strike or the inauguration of Iraqi officials to once again call for the swift and immediate withdrawal of US troops (cut and run is a regular theme of the Left, which repeatedly shows itself to have never learned from Vietnam despite their willingness to use Vietnam as their centerpiece for foreign policy at every opportunity).

Hooray for the Iraqis for they did themselves proud. Our troops should hold their heads up high because they enabled this to happen for the Iraqi people at the cost, sadly to say, of more than 1,400 service personnel. All the troops made a historical impact on a new direction for the middle east. After WWII it took Germany 3 years before they had an election. That's how significant this election was in world history.
As for senators Kerry and Kennedy, they should dig themselves a hole and bury themselves. They never stand up for America..only for themselves.

'It's going to be a real challenge for lefties to spin the Iraqi election as a failure in any way that doesn't make them look like the sore losers and liars that they are.'

They'll try their damdedest to trivialize the elections but apparently they have no concern about looking like sore losers. well you can just drop the sore part.


'Anyone who values freedom, democracy and human dignity has got to be proud of what has been accomplished in Iraq.'

And incredibly that leaves so many of the Dems out.



As American, and a citizen of the world, I am awed and humbled at the courage and determination of the Iraqi men and women who voted in the election yesterday. And it is the Americans who made it happen! I was also so gratified to see the people of the Ukraine in there recent election. Two thumbs up!

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004