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January 7, 2005

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Toxic Waste in Baghdad

By Greyhawk

When I saw John Kerry in Iraq recently I thought that here was a great opportunity to do something for America and Iraq - express solidarity, a commitment to success for democracy in the upcomming elections, support the troops, etc. etc.

Then I found this story:

WASHINGTON - When Congress meets in a special joint session Thursday to count electoral ballots from the presidential race, Sen. John F. Kerry will be noticeably absent - thousands of miles away on a fact-finding trip in the Middle East.

Which led me to believe the purpose of his visit might be less positive, but still I had hope.

Until I found this story:

The senator said he was more interested in asking questions of soldiers, U.S. officials, Iraqis and even the journalists themselves instead of rehashing the political battles of the past campaign season.

But in several instances, Kerry attacked what he called the "horrendous judgments" and "unbelievable blunders" of the Bush administration. The mistakes, he said, included former U.S. occupation leader Paul Bremer's decisions to disband the Iraqi army and purge the government of former members of Hussein's Baath Party. Both moves are widely believed to have fueled the largely Sunni insurgency.

"What is sad about what's happening here now is that so much of it is a process of catching up from the enormous miscalculations and wrong judgments made in the beginning," he said. "And the job has been made enormously harder."

The hero of Ho Chi Min strikes again. Some cheering was heard from several of the few thousand troops who voted Kerry over here, but they were drowned out by cheering of the "insurgents".

So while clowns in Congress attempt to turn the day into a circus, the failed candidate runs to Iraq to bemoan the war in person to the troops.

Here's a great quote from '03, see if you remember which Vietnam veteran said it:

"I remember being one of those guys and reading news reports from home," the Vietnam veteran said. "If America is at war, I won't speak a word without measuring how it'll sound to the guys doing the fighting when they're listening to their radios in the desert."

Three comments:

1. We've all got mp3 players.

2. There are no "boys and girls" - there are men and women.

3. Measure this: Shut the %$^& up.

Here's hoping for no reason to discuss this man again here.

I'd say more but I've got to round up troops to clean a slime trail someone left in the desert.


Posted by Greyhawk / January 7, 2005 3:07 PM | Permalink

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19 Comments

Heh. You *really* don't like Kerry, do you?

Here's a bit more irony: Ted Kennedy was questioning Gonzalez yesterday about water torture! Ted Kennedy...water torture. How's that for sensitivity? (Balloon Juice has an amusing post.)

If people were willing to move to Canada because W was re-elected, I wonder how many moved from Massachusettes because they were stuck with Kerry in the Senate?

Hey Greyhawk, when you have time, could you give us more info and the soldiers reaction when Kerry was there? (I want to hear that all cheering was forced!)

Thanks for what you are doing for all of us. Stay safe.

This just makes me sad... The guy still doesn't have a clue. What was the point of the visit other than to be out of town during the electoral certification?

But Greyhawk, that article about Kerry visiting Iraq was printed in the "MSM"!!!!

Can you believe anything printed by the MSM? Do they ever tell the truth, or keep a promise?

I don't believe the MSM, I only believe in Blogs!!!

At Little Green Footballs (blog), there is a picture of JFnK sitting with a Syrian Baath member/leader (?). Why is he there? I'm speechless, yeah, speechless and sickened.

I think it was brave of Kerry to mingle with armed troops. When I was stationed in Coronado our CO was forced to assign a number of us for a photo op with Clinton on the beach--no one wanted to allow Clinton to us us. Clinton was disliked, but not as much as Kerry is. We were not armed, but the soldiers in Iraq were. How any of our soldiers could have cheered for that jack-ass I'll never know!

Does anyone know if this is an Official Fact Finding Mission that is sanctioned by the State Department? If not there is a law against members of Congress meeting with foreign Govts. without the express permission of the Sec. of State at the behest of the Executive Branch.

Doc, it's the Logan Act, and maybe he violated it. Probably not; he probably had more than enough permission to go over there. How convenient for him, to be out of town during the Boxer rebellion. And to be over there with the troops? Who's going over there next, Hitlery Rotten? This is pre-campaigning for '08. I can see the ticket now: Clinton/Kerry. This is gonna be rich...

Funny during the election nobody asked Kerry about his meetings with North Vietnam leadership during the war. He then brought back their talking points and used it against our troops in the field and those who had already served. I guess the more things change the more they stay the same with this dirtbag. Anybody who voted for him and claims they "support the troops" is beyond stupid or FOS. When I saw what he said to the guys in Iraq and then met with the heads of Syria which is similar to Laos, Cambodia, and China of this war I was shocked even knowing Kerry's shameful past from Vietnam. What a POS.

Kerry, back where he belongs: undermining the troops and sucking up to dictators.

Spitball should be censured by the Senate for his actions. We're all paying this scumbag's salary, and he ain't done anything for 20 years...

Re the above: "Some cheering was heard from several of the few thousand troops who voted Kerry over here, but they were drowned out by cheering of the 'insurgents.' "

Greyhawk, did you observe this personally?

If not, what is the source of this info? It's not in the SF Chronicle article. Although the article IMPLIES it, it doesn't actually state that the cheering soldiers were in the same place or time as Kerry's anti-war & military denigrations. They could have graciously cheered his arrival at the airport; then he could have made his statements privately to journalists elsehwere and later.

See my speculation at the wizbangblog.com thread that the alleged military "cheers for Kerry" may be fictitious (created by the title and 2nd paragraph of the SF Chronicle's article), just like the 9/3/04 AP fabricated report of Bush audience "boos" about Clinton's illness.

I have too much respect for our Armed Forces, to not question the MSM first whether such cheering occurred at all.

I could have sworn the purpose of Kerry's visit to Camp Victory was to inform the troups that liberals have thrown their full support behind.....the insurgents!

Heys its possible....after all I just found out that Michael MooreON 's mockumentary Farenshit 9.11 won a People's Choice award!!

Heaven Help Us All! On the plus side...I can only hope that THIS is the ONLY award MooreOn's Mockumentary is ever nominated for, let alone wins.

remember the the child's story of the king with no clothes. i don't remember much except that the king waltz down the street naked cuz' he thought the tailor had made his cloths out of a special weave. everyone along the way acted as if he was clothed. that's our own john kerry.

Kerry knew better than to visit the Marines. Marines would have told him that Chesty Puller wouldn't have approved of talking in a negative way while the troops are in harms way.
"Wer're surrounded! they can't get away this time"--Chesty Puller, 1950 '

People moving out of Mass??
The state is the only one to lose population in the last census!!
Just about 4000 gone, about the size of a country town.
(The POLS claim tech job losses and the high cost of living)

Hell Greyhawk, don't stifle yourself man tell us how you really feel! ;-)

Seriously though, I surf Milblogs when I need a pick-me-up after reading too much bullshit from the MSM and I gotta tell ya, you've got a good'un.

Sorry about letting that P.O.S out of the country. He must'a slipped out when nobody was watching. (He's a sneaky bastard ya know).

We'll get him corralled back to Mass just as soon as we can and we promise to keep him away from the MEN and WOMEN over there from now on!

Keep up the good work and thanks!

Gawd, this man is such a horse's a$$.

In case anyone needs a laugh at his expense, here is a golden oldie from the election - compliments of Kerry

http://www.fivehundredwords.com/multimedia/index.htm

Kerry is a filthy piece of shit. How dare he show his french seditious boney ass in Iraq.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004