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December 13, 2004

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Up Your Armor III

By Greyhawk

Joe Galloway (of "We Were Soldiers" fame) gives a great overview of the realities behind the recurring "armor shortage" story. Galloway (disclaimer: we've never met) is a reporter whose views I disagree with frequently and respect tremendously, but his report on the background reinforces several of the concepts introduced here and here last week. Excerpts follow, but as always, read the whole thing.

...the guerrilla war quickly escalated. U.S. forces in Iraq quickly discovered that the humvee - a light transport vehicle designed more than 15 years ago to replace the old World War II jeep - worked better than anything else they had on hand in terms of maneuverability and durability.

Unfortunately, it had zero protection built into it for the soldiers riding in it. The requests for humvees built with armor at the factory, and for add-on armor kits, grew from a few for Special Operations forces at the end of summer 2003 to 400 in November 2003 and more in months following. The total request, scheduled to be met in March, is for about 22,000 armored humvees.

Retired Col. Gary Motsek, a senior civilian official for the Army Materiel Command, said that given early shortages of a critical high-tensile steel and continuing shortages of bulletproof glass for windshields and door windows, it's little short of a miracle that the escalating demand has been met within about a year.

"The frustration I have is people asking: 'Why wasn't this on the shelf?' This involves a change of tactics, a change of the fight," Motsek said. "When the mission changed and the war changed, the armoring of the humvee became priority number one."

Motsek said that the design for an armor add-on kit was sketched out over a weekend, and the metal was cut and attached to a humvee within 10 days. That humvee was tested immediately for protection not only against small-arms fire but also heavier weapons. It took only four months from the first request in August 2003 to the beginning of production of the armor kits - a process, Motsek contended, that normally takes years.

A year ago, the steel needed for the armor kits wasn't manufactured anywhere in the United States, and the output of the single plant making bulletproof glass was 15 windshields a month.

Today there are several American sources for the special steel, and the plant making ballistic glass has ramped up production to 500 windshields a month. It will be joined in February by a second plant also capable of making 500 windshields a month.

The Armor Holdings plant that turns out new humvees with full armor protection has, in that same year, boosted production from 50 a month to 450 a month. Army Materiel Command officials said there were discussions about Armor Holdings' offer Thursday to increase production of the armored humvee from 450 to 550 per month. They expressed surprise that such an increase might be possible.

The "we can increase production" quote has been parroted repeatedly in the mainstream media with little background or additional information provided. It's good to see someone willing to put a more complete story out for the tax-paying public; it's no surprise that Galloway is the man that did so.



Posted by Greyhawk / December 13, 2004 3:24 PM | Permalink

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When the orders for armor kits drops back to 100 a month, where do the surplus workers go?

Those of us old enough to remember WWll can recall we were not prepared either. Nevertheless, America switched production to "war time" and we became the biggest force in the world in a matter of a few months.

MSM would rather play "Gotcha" to embarass and impune than actually examine a story to find facts and details. Playing "gotcha" games and writing with attitude of smug superiority are -MUCH- easier than actually doing the work of reporting.

Reporters would rather pretend than be actual journalists. All the glory and none of the risks. Now they want Court Immunity from anything they steal, fabricate or plant in the press. (BUT they don't want bloggers to have the same Soveriegn Immunity-!)

They are everywhere. Just most professions don't get Robert Redford to show em how the pretending is done.

It's real people vs pretend people.

I love you, Lucille!

Listen to someone who remembers how The Greatest Generation fought their wars, Boys.

This back-story sounds like the America I know: no one can innovate, create, and produce like the "Can Do!" Americans, from "drawing up the plans over the weekend," to multiplying production 100-fold in a couple of months, while soldiers in the field improvise their own solutions in the short interval between the demand and the supply.

Ever see /Saving Private Ryan/? When Americans didn't have anti-tank weapons, they took off their socks & made sticky bombs. Do you think that tactic was in their field manuals? Not likely.

Sixty years later, when the nature of the mission requires armored light transports to offer protection in a never-been-seen-before combat environment, the grandchildren of those American soldiers dug through scrap-heaps and ARMORED those light transports so that they could engage the enemy, instead of waiting or cowering on their bases (and you can bet they weren't using any "special, high-grade steel," either. It was anything they could get their hands on that would stop a bullet of reduce the concussion of an IED, so that they could stay alive long enough to find the enemy and kill him).

That's just the way Americans do things, and it is largely why we will be victorious in the field. The ingenuity and resolve of our fighting men are unparalleled, and the genius, scope and creativity of our support systems is the envy of the military world.

Walter A. Wallis, is that all you can think of, job protection? It's the very flexibility of our demand economy that allows the quick response to new needs. That extra employment is a temporary bubble that puts money in workers' pockets. How you see that as a negative dismays me. All defeatists please move to the back of the bus and try to whine as quietly as you can; we're busy winning a war up here.

I'll forward your Kudo's to Galloway.

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004