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December 8, 2004

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Left Behind

By Greyhawk

It seems a few lefty types thought they'd struck upon a fine idea: create a blog, then email a bunch of center/right bloggers to attempt to bring the crowds to their site. I especially enjoyed this post there:

Vehicles in New Jersey are covered with decals representing little ribbons inscribed with the legend: ?Support Our Troops.? I have done a lot of driving recently and have noticed geographical disparities in the distribution of these symbols. There are fewer in the Midwest and very few at all in the LA area. They are also disproportionately displayed on SUVs and vans, which isn?t surprising given that the owners are disproportionately reliant on the oil supplies that our soldiers are in Iraq to protect (among their other purposes).

What is it exactly that these decals exhort us to do? How can I, or anyone, support the troops themselves? What can we possibly do for them? It seems that the message is really an exhortation to support the war.

...since it sums up so nicely the vacant American Left position on virtually everything. "I'm not aware of something, therefore it doesn't exist. Discovery is beyond my capability."

Of course, the authors solicited links, as I said, so there is a small possibility that the post reflects nothing of the author's mindset and is merely designed to draw comments. If so it did quite well, with over 100 as of now, including an early one that's a fine take down from Joe Katzman of Winds of Change, who saved me much effort.

Joe's comment begins "Hmm. Just got an email from Left2Right" and goes on to exceed the quality of anything else written on the site. (Except maybe the Dean Esmay comment a little further down) But those so inclined can read the original post and all the comments for some insight to the current mind of the left regarding "support the troops".

It all just brings to mind the lack of lefty support for anysoldier.com, in spite of Michael Moore encouragement that I documented here, or the complete absence of lefty blogs from any of the SoA challenge teams or individuals found here. (To be clear, SoA, of course, helps in the rebuilding of Iraq - so I suppose lefty support of that effort is out of the question too.)

Read as much of the whole thing as you can stand.

I expect these same folks might drop a few spare quarters into the hat for Jeremy Hinzman, but When it comes to "support" from the left, as with so many other things, the lights are on but nobody's home.



Posted by Greyhawk / December 8, 2004 9:25 PM | Permalink

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Supporting The Troops from Villainous Company on December 9, 2004 1:27 PM

I stumbled across this post from Left2Right, a liberal blog formed to foster debate between the Left and Right. From their inaugural post: In the aftermath of the 2004 Presidential election, many of us have come to believe that the... Read More

The University of Oregon has reportedly ordered an employee to remove a "Support Our Troops" magnet from his maintenance vehicle because it's a "political statement" in violation of school policy. Hat tip: Kevin McCullough. So much for "diversity," say... Read More

The Deomcratic Party wonders why it has been losing elections? Liberal overreation to damn near everything is part of it. By way of example, we have the University of Oregon telling employees that they can't display yellow ribbon stickers that say "s... Read More

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I've been wanting to create a bumper sticker that says "Supporting Our Troops is MORE than smacking a magnet on your car. Adopt-A-Platoon.org" or list all of the organization where you can actually DO SOMETHING. I have two magnets on my car and a patch from Adopt-A-Platoon. One of my magnets says "freedom isn't free." I wonder how many people really do SOMETHING to support our troops?

Well, I don't get his comments on Los Angeles. I do the 405 commute every day into west LA and I see plenty of yellow ribbons on anything with wheels, and a few without.

Not to mention that LA is also where Operation Gratitude is which has currently sent out over 30,000 care packages to the troops for the holidays. (works out of the Van Nuys Armory)

Myself, I am a flaming liberal and won't put a flag or a ribbon on my car. Flags fade too fast and get tattered and look disrespectful. And I'd rather do something concrete for the troops than just slap a sticker on my car. Usually that may just consist of writing a check, other times more. Either way, it's on a regular basis. Four servicemen from my suburb have lost their lives in Iraq. The war doesn't just affect small towns in the Midwest.

Do not underestimate the generosity or patriotism of "blue" states.

Good Grief...where in the hell do these people come from? How can you be so damn obtuse that you cannot figure out a way to support the troops?

Granted their political leanings probably prevent them from participating in SoA as Greyhawk pointed out (go see the LGF thread on this when a SoA challenge was made to Atrios from LGF poster "Iron Fist"...very ugly). But even a tinfoil beanie wearing, card carrying LLL should be able to send phone cards over to WRAMC so wounded troops being treated there can call family and friends.

Doggone it, I had gone to that site to jump on that thread but they'd closed the thread. Oh, well; at least I can whale on the other stuff.

I went to the site left2right and looked at the bios of the contributors. The vast majority are in academia (over whelming the humanities). What a surprise, a bunch of college professors with liberal out looks. How original; how bold.

Those that can, do; those that can't, teach (and those that can't teach, teach gym but they’re probably coaches and so they're good people after all).

Hmm, apparently the author didn't venture to far out into the Midwest from NJ. Here in the part of the Midwest where I live, Iowa, Those magnetic ribbons are on about three out four vehicles. Maybe the author thinks Pennsylvania is where the Midwest is.

I am also in LA. I have a bag of "Remember 911" pins and they are in huge demand with everyone I meet.

Let's make this a key issue for the Democratic Party to rally around, "We hope We Lose the War on Terror" "Save Saddam, Now!"

No wonder our servicemembers voted overwhelmingly for President Bush.

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004