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November 19, 2004

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Fish Gotta Swim...

By Greyhawk

It's a good thing we're communicating by written words now rather than spoken, because there's a helicopter parked about 50 yards from me, still running, an ambulance next to it with a guy on a stretcher in between. It's loud - but it's also dark out right now so I can't see if it's an American on that stretcher or an Iraqi. Whoever it is they're on their way out now.

It's gone. That's better - it's much quieter. Quiet is better because you can hear the incoming rockets.

Trivia test 1: Which of the following is an actual quote from Interim Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi regarding the insurgents in Fallujah on the eve of the assault?

A: "The insurgents have known for months that we're coming - go ye now forth and wound them, then patch them up and make them promise to stop killing children, and beheading people, and shooting Iraqi aid workers. Make them say "I'm sorry" for the atrocities they committed in the name of Saddam Hussein too. Ensure they are sincere, accept nothing less than pinky swears, and then and only then let them go in peace. Remember, we are in the business of winning hearts and minds!"

"Pinky swears! Pinky swears!" Chanted the wildly enthusiastic soldiers. Allawi replied: "Hearts and minds!"

or

B: "The people of Fallujah have been taken hostage ... and you need to free them from their grip," Allawi told Iraqi soldiers on Monday during a visit to the main U.S. base outside Fallujah.

"May they go to hell!" the soldiers shouted. Allawi replied: "To hell they will go."

It may surprise many of you that the correct answer is 'B'. But in fact it's the only answer. And there's no "third way" in between the two. Armies function on an "on/off" switch - those who would have it otherwise are fools.

Fish gotta swim, birds gotta fly...

Donald Sensing (who I'm overjoyed to see blogging again) has a great post on the likely fate of the Marine from Fallujah. I don't need to say which Marine, do I? I don't think I need say more than the Reverend on that topic at all.

I don't have time for TV here, so I rely on internet sources for information. A check of the web's major mainstream news sites shows very little banner coverage of the shooting in Fallujah. Guess it's a TV moment - lacking video the story just isn't big. That and the fact that it happened on the wrong Tuesday in November. It must be huge on TV though, cause the blogs are sure all over it, making it out to be the biggest story since last week, when Fallujah was attacked and Jihadis everywhere declared they would destroy us all.

I can see why it would be big on TV, especially big screen American TVs; a group of men enters a room occupied by other men who'd very recently been trying to kill them. Not just any room - it's a room in a place of worship, although its sanctity has been defiled by those same shooters. Now they lie prone, the fight apparently taken out of them. Still all those men walking in are ready to shoot - they know this enemy too well - and now one in fact is shooting. Each is doing his job, it's that simple. Simple but intensely compelling, a riveting situation, to say the least.

A professional knows his business and does it well. I wasn't in that room - I wasn't in that town - but I trust those who were did what they had to do. I won't second guess them. He had to shoot, don't you agree? It was his job. The military sent him in, sanctioned his actions, flipped the "on" switch, so to speak. That's the price you pay for freedom - ugliness on the edges, sometimes thrust into your dining rooms. I'm on that edge - or at least most likely closer than you - that's the price I pay for freedom. You just have to look at it from time to time from your safe place in the center, and comment on it if you're so inclined.

In spite of all this - the fact that none of us were there but this guy was, and he was doing his job that was sanctioned by military command and control authority - in spite of all this an amazing number of people are eager to condemn him for the shooting.

Trivia test two: I'm talking about

A. A Marine shooting an enemy in combat.

B. Kevin Sites shooting video.

C. All of the above.

Welcome to the ugly edge of freedom, where evil is real and nobody hates us today who didn't hate us yesterday.

Trivia 3: Which side's soldiers died in Fallujah while defending freedom of the press?

Don't betray their memory.

Damn - it's late and there's another helicopter. No problem, I sleep through that noise all the time.

Good night America, sweet dreams to you all.


Posted by Greyhawk / November 19, 2004 3:58 PM | Permalink

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I think the story is dying down, hopefully. The anti-war crowd and media are trying to milk it, but I think they even realize that this will go against their "Support our troops, but not the war" mantra. Also, Bill O'Reilly said he'll make sure that the Marine isn't thrown to the wolves, or else he'll...launch a Fox News Jihad on.... someone important, somewhere. So not to worry.

Of course to get a real perspective on events you need to turn to Hollywood, next weekend is the opening of Oliver Stone's blockbuster Alexander (of Macedon), starring the Irishman Colin Ferrell. Of course, Alexander marched across Asia Minor destroying armies and cities, including Babylon (Iraq), without a UN mandate. But the real important lesson of Alexander is that...well he was gay (i.e. sensitive) and thus worthy of our praise and admiration.

So, if you happen to see slightly effeminate togo-clad conqueror in the neighborhood, be sure to say hi (boyfriend too) and get a picture. Just watch your back(side) ;)

Stay Safe!

Read the Poweline Blog & everything on RealClearPolitics about the Marine JUST PROTECTING HIMSELF & OTHER MARINES, which pretty much seems to be the concensus, even among several of the MSM types. Amazing huh, when all of the FACTS, or @ least most of them come out, & you don't have the prejudicial comments of the "reporters" and nightly news BS'ers running in the background. Still way too many of them A-hole types around, though. And the internet is now my most "trusted" source for news now. Keep doing what you are doing Mr. & Mrs. GREYHAWK, this AIR FORCE BRAT (former), still wishes you the BEST, and many more.

"Can't help lovin' that Greyhawk of mine....."

On the Fallujah Marine, only one person was present when the first US unit entered the mosque, treated wounded, then left, and when the second unit entered and encountered the wounded enemy belligerents - - Kevin Sites. He is heard on tape stating "these are the wounded that were never picked up". Sites claims the earlier Marine unit said that soldiers coming up behind them would evacuate the wounded, while they moved on to fight the war.
The only version of events we have is from Kevin Sites, a known anti-military, anti-US policy in Iraq "journalist" who has been rooting around for some controversy regarding our soldiers during the past year. I have been following his dispatches, and there is a distinct anti-US policy bias in the tenor of his reporting, and the things he emphasizes and repeats.
If trying to be an impartial observer, Sites should have stood back and let the other soldiers on the scene determine whether further reporting up the chain was necessary. It was not his place to report to the soldier's chain of command and suggest they investigate the tape. He is a danger to every soldier within a 100 yard radius of him. As I've said elsewhere, he is not fit to walk among these brave US Marines.

So we didn't airdrop baskets full of cute and adorable little kittens to see if the insurgents would be encouraged to change their ways? Or would that be a war crime of some sort? ;)

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004