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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! November 17, 2004 Awww Shoot...By GreyhawkIssues on the shooting of a combatant in Fallujah: This fact seems to be undisputed: the man was a combatant, and not a very nice boy. He had very recently been actively shooting at US Marines from a mosque. Sorry Charlie, there are numerous movies about people shooting at US Marines and the fate they generally meet. This guy may never have seen one - if he had this whole thing might not have happened. We must work harder at spreading our culture. Here's the best quote I've seen in mainstream media on this so far: Charles Heyman, a senior defense analyst with Jane's Consultancy Group in Britain, defended the Marine's actions, saying the wounded man could have been concealing a firearm or grenade. In other words, an enemy who knows he is dying is probably willing to take you along. That truism must be considered when dealing with legal combatants and wounded suicidal maniacs too. You'll find several good points and a great comment thread here. And a tip of the hat to 2Slick, who says everything I would about the incident, and thus saving me alot of typing time. And reminder: if you see a corpse of any sort around these parts (much less a living guy, wounded or not) it's best to think of it as an IED rather than a dead body. Unless you want to be dead too. Posted by Greyhawk / November 17, 2004 11:41 AM | Permalink 4 TrackBacksMudville Gazette Greyhawk has some good stuff over at Mudville Gazette on the Marine shooting the wounded guy. Here's a quick recap: In other words, an enemy who knows he is dying is probably willing to take you along. That... Read More There's a big stink being raised over a US soldier in Fallujah who allegedly administered a coup de grace to a wounded enemy combatant. Read More From former SEAL Matthew Heidt:[...] ... Here is your situation Marine. You just took fire from unlawful combatants shooting from a religious building attempting to use the sanctuary status of their position as protection. But you're in Fallujah now, and Read More
Lets stop the feeding frenzy on this young marine. "In the video, as the cameraman moved into the mosque, a Marine can be heard shouting obscenities in Read More4 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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The 'moral equivalence' the MSM and the U.N. are trying to bring in this issue infuriates me. We see no evidence of the gruesome things done to our soldiers or civilians by terrorists - YET - we continually see Abu Graib or this incident being blown out of proportion. Congrats to the MSM for helping spread terrorist propaganda to America. Some Americans are falling for it - but MOST OF US ARE NOT. Stay safe. Glad you're on our side.
I think it was on Little Green Footballs someone suggested the Marines should send in the inbedded reporters to see if insurgents are really dead and not a threat.
What a great idea!
Instapundit just linked to my take on this, which includes links to yours and 2Slick's, among others. At least a few people are going to hear the MilBlogs side of this.
Ran across a soldier's blog that has a good post about that Marine. All of us need to put ourselves in his situation. You can read it here www.adayiniraq.com