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August 25, 2004

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With Friends Like That...

By Greyhawk

NPR offers a misguided and condescending look at MilBlogs - specifically "My War".

Do not mistake what follows for any attempt on my part to speak on behalf of CB. He speaks for himself quite well. I will also mention "the Army" throughout this discussion. Note that "the Army" is a large group of individuals. Long years of experience have led me to this fact: An individual in the Army is usually responsible for all complaints targeted at the institution. Since I've no idea what specific individuals might think on this topic I will use the generic "the Army".

There are obvious problems with the NPR story:

1. Moments after we hear from the real blogger, (audio available at above link) they play a "dramatization" of one of his entries, read by someone CBFTW describes as an "f-ing weirdo" that sounds like "the bus driver from the Simpsons". Dude, like, you know, they sooo tooootally wanted you to be something that yer not. You B You, man, UBU. Rock on. Peace out.

2. In conjunction with the false dead beat dope smoking under achieving moron that had to join the Armyimage, they portray CB as someone 'reporting the truth about an increasingly unpopular war'. While a recent bombardment of campaign speeches and media coverage may be eroding support for the troops, I would guess "the Army" is well aware of the positive PR they were getting from My War. But this is not a political issue - its a military one. The lives of a lot of people are at risk, and CB's command shoulders that burden. Were they to not monitor the communications once they were aware of them they would be negligent, at least, likely derelict in their duties, and responsible for the results.

"The Army" wants him to continue blogging. Believe me, "the Army" could more easily issue a blanket gag order and shut down all MilBlogs - most likely there are voices calling for that. In years past that would have been the instant response. That they haven't done so speaks well for a new mentality at the top. Perhaps the same mentality that led to "embedded reporters" in the thunder run - but I'm speculating.

3. What seems apparent to me is that CB has now been "outed". "The Army" now has a new and different problem. Can they use him in the capacity for which he was trained - the service he wants to perform? Heaven forbid anything happen to him, but what would the same morons crying about "the Army" trying to silence him say if he were hurt?

A sticky issue, to say the least, but really a new version of an old problem. My grandfather wrote letters home to my grandmother in WWI (yes - one). The ones I've seen were censored. War is Hell. The people who read those letters prior to sending them knew my grandfather wouldn't intentionally violate security, and they read every letter he wrote. The military is trying to come to grips with a new age. For every MilBlogger out there that I know of, there are probably at least ten I don't. For every one of those there are a thousand more GIs writing home on the internet; IM, e-mail, personal web pages or otherwise.

I see two likely options:

1. Trust 'em or bust 'em: Train thoroughly, monitor closely, punish those who violate opsec.

2. Flip the comm switch "off".

I propose option one. But I'm biased.

And here's what the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs said to Hugh Hewitt:

Hewitt: General Myers, I have very narrow question. A lot of us who use the internet for a living and blog for a living are interested in this. There are a lot of military bloggers out there. Individual active duty servicemen and women who put their thoughts, their impressions of their duty stations and the world around them on the internet on MilBlogs. What's your opinion of that? I love them. I hope you keep them, but what's the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff think about those?

General Myers: You know, I don't see that many of them, but based on this conversation Hugh, I will see more of them (laugh). I think, you know, when you get to the four-star level, you fight to get information from the troops and you don't want to be a victim of just getting fed what the staff brings you every day. The way you work that is through the internet as you just mentioned or you visit places. You go to Iraq, you go to Afghanistan and you try and get down to the individual soldier, airmen, sailor, Marine level, coastguardsmen duty, civilian and look them in the eye and say, "How's it going?" and establish enough rapport that they'll tell you, and at my level it's a constant fight to make sure that you get the straight skinny. I think it's a good idea that I plug into some of those too in my spare time.

Ironically, the General, like the rest of us, will now have to read CB through the filter of his immediate command.

War is hell.

(Hewitt quote via Chapomatic).

Update: Nathan at Brain Fertilizer offers this:

To tell the truth, I am far more disturbed that the USAF (and maybe the rest of the military, dunno), totally blocks access to the portal mail servers (Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL). Even worse, they don't warn you before you deploy. It can be a significant morale hit to not be able to receive email or even be able to tell someone you won't be able to read their email until you return...
Will have to look into that. Anyone else have this problem?

Meanwhile, Darth VOB offers this:

I'd like to offer some advice to deployed milbloggers. This is roughly the same advice I've been giving soldiers about to deploy for the last year and a half. In that time, as part of my duties in the J6 (Information Management / Operations) for the Ohio Army National Guard, I've briefed soldiers on the benefits and use of AKO - Army Knowledge Online, the Army's web portal. One of the points I make is that if you want to share a photo or a story, don't do so on MSN, Yahoo IM, or standard email unless you are comfortable with it being on the front page of USA Today. That's how secure those information delivery vehicles are.
They both have plenty more to say. Click in and visit, they've got nothing to hide.

Update 2: Hook weighs in from the 'Stan. He writes the second half of this post so I don't have to - on being anonymous for the benefit of the junior troops, vs the seniors.


Posted by Greyhawk / August 25, 2004 11:34 AM | Permalink

8 TrackBacks

"Use Any Weapon" from Brain Fertilizer on August 25, 2004 4:12 PM

So NPR uses military attempts to maintain Operations Security as a pretext to criticize the war in Iraq. Here's Greyhawk's take on the issue. My reaction? Well, I don't know. I don't trust NPR much to begin with, and when... Read More

MilBlogs from Sgt Hook - This We'll Defend on August 26, 2004 1:33 AM

MilBlogs Greyhawk has an outstanding post up at the Mudville Gazette regarding active duty military bloggers and the thin line that separates writing about one's experiences and putting soldiers' lives in jeopardy. It can be a very thin line indee... Read More

Operational Security. OPSEC. Many of you who follow the MILBLOGS ring are aware of cbftw, a young soldier who writes "My War ." If you've been following his tale, you've read some amazing things from a guy who's "in it." You're probably also... Read More

I am livid about how they grossly screwed up the NPR article on CB. They had a perfect piece of writing, and blew it! So I went out of character and wrote a rant to the NPR response people, where it will never see the light of day. Folks, You ... Read More

OPSEC tips for those of you about to deploy to the Sandbox. from Welcome to Castle Argghhh! The Home Of Two Of Jonah's Military Guys. on August 26, 2004 11:29 AM

Fellow Milblogger DarthVOB offers some food for thought on OPSEC for deployed milbloggers, offering up some stuff I hadn't thought about, and will keep in mind, as well. Why me? Because I get stuff from deployed warriors sometimes, and while... Read More

Somebody drove a stake through it's heart. from Welcome to Castle Argghhh! The Home Of Two Of Jonah's Military Guys. on August 27, 2004 11:13 AM

Someone drove a spike through Colby Buzzel's My War blog. Instructive to see if it was voluntary, directed, or 'suggested.' I guess we'll know if blogs start going dark all over the deployed force, or by service, or unit. If... Read More

Panic does not grip the nation as the Free Ice Cream shortage continues. The last few days have been filled with some good things, and a schedule that has been so hectic that I have not even had the time... Read More

War Zone Blogger Crackdown? from Backcountry Conservative on August 27, 2004 1:43 PM

Blogs of War was the first place I saw a mention of a possible crackdown by the military on bloggers in combat area. John Donovan mentions the same NPR piece. They both discuss My War. Other blogging: MilBlogs An Army... Read More

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Somehow I don't think CB will care if he's 'filtered' especially from his comment about NPR! It's unfortunate, but necessary because I'm sure there are some who don't realize that simple info could violate OPSEC. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. Hopefully they won't be too 'filtered' because if they become a PR mouth - they lose all their sense of TRUTH and people will stop reading.

I am not really concerned with the NPR audience and their opinion on the war. The fact they still call what is occurring in Iraq a "war", shows how out-of-touch they are.

On top of the that, the majority of those who listen to NPR and 'believe' what they hear, have already made up their minds and nothing short of exposing these "birth-right" Americans to what the rest of the world is like will ever change that.

Semper Fi, CB

//jcrue

Wow! Thanks for the link! Someone read my site!

I'm in the USAF and where I'm stationed I do have access to web-based e-mail such as Hushmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc. As far as not being notified of upcoming deployments goes, I have a few friends whom I work with that were sent to Iraq in the spring of 2004. They were all given at least a one and a half months notice before deployment. I don't know how the USAF notifies other personnel at all our other bases, so my friends' experiences could be unique. Same goes for my ability to access web-mail...could be a unique situation again.

I have a son in the Air Force, flying C-130's out of Little Rock AFB. He deploys every three-six months and also knows about a month to two months before hand. He is allowed to use web-based email at times and at others, must go through the military email. But he knows this ahead of time as well. I believe this depends upon his area of deployment. He is unable to tell us where he's going, although I know it's somewhere in the ME (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemmen, Iraq, etc) ... I notice, BTW, that CB has changed the name of his blog to just "MY War" now.

Thank you for another great and informational post! It was something that weighed on my mind all day. I posted tonight from the wife of a service member's perspective on the issue. I think military wives, husbands, family members, etc...also have a duty to watch what is put out there. If by chance we were to come across some information we must be careful what we do with that information and make sure we are not the cause of putting our troops in danger. The old WWII slogan "Loose Lips Sink Ships" keeps coming to mind today.

Sgt. Hook's post on this topic has been mysteriously removed.

When I was in Kuwait the Army used websense to selectively block sites. When the shooting started, they blocked everything but mil, news and financial sites. Sports was not considered news and it was odd to be able to read the front page of the NYT but not the sports section.

One of the reasons is they shift bandwidth from the regular internet to the classified internet and back depending on the situation.

I've been told (don't know if it's true) that the portal email sites use a lot more bandwidth than a regular web page because they keep the socket open. Or something like that.

Okay, I am going to sound like a moron here LOL, but how do you do a track back? I added the link to this post to my post but I've noticed the track back address is slightly different. I noticed track backs on several blogs but I'm not exactly sure what to do. Could someone briefly explain track backs for me for future reference? Thank you so much.

I, too, have been following CB's blog and posted on the topic yesterday.

Unfortunately it looks like the proverbial party is over as CB has pulled the plug. All his archives have been taken offline and title changed to: OVER and OUT

I can't say as how I blame him. I have always said: "Give me Fortune. Who needs Fame?"

Damn it was a thrill while it lasted!

Congratulations to the self-serving carps at NPR. Their "Soldiers' Iraq Blogs Face Military Scrutiny" piece has become the proverbial self-fulfilling prophecy.

The NPR program that aired this poor excuse for journalism is called Day to Day. Please join me in expressing our displeasure with their broadcast of August 24 by emailing them at daytoday@npr.org

It won't bring CB back, but we'll feel better and they'll get a hell of a lot of email to wade through. This sounds like win-win to me!

--Julie

P.S. By the way, it seems even Sgt. Hook doesn't know where his Milblogs post has gone. He was apparently as surprised to find it removed as everyone else! Curiouser and curiouser....

Good thing I printed out "Men In Black" on CB's blog. I should have archived his whole site. Anybody know if it got archived somewhere outside of Blogger.com?

There's always the google cache.. I just googled site:cbftw.blogspot.com and got about 80 entries. Obviously those aren't complete, but still not a bad place to start..

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004