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 Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! August 20, 2004 The New Swift Boat AdBy GreyhawkAnd be sure to visit the Swift's site. Update: Some Mudville readers might recognize Paul Galanti in the commercial above. For those who don't, meet a true American hero: Paul Galanti learned of Kerry's speech while held captive inside North Vietnam's infamous "Hanoi Hilton" internment camp. The Navy pilot had been shot down in June 1966 and spent nearly seven years as a prisoner of war. Oh, and once again, the "Republican attack squad" has a McCain tie-in: During the 2000 presidential primaries, Galanti was the Virginia Chair of Senator John McCain's presidential bid. "John is the only guy I know who is more positive than I am," says Galanti. "He did quite well in Virginia especially considering that the campaign was composed of an all-volunteer Army of political non-professionals"! Hat tip (again) to Jen Martinez. Update 2: Ken Cordier's bio is here. Also see this: John Kerry's bid to become commander in chief of wartime America has opened old wounds among some former Vietnam-era POWs who bristle over Kerry's anti-war activism and atrocity allegations during the Vietnam conflict. This is interesting. Considering how loud an F4 was perhaps it could briefly drown out the audio of Kerry's Senate speech. And another free chapter of the book here. And for those who wonder if this really matters today, click here, read the whole thing. History repeats. Update 3: "Peter" has commented here from time to time before. This remark gets relocated to the main post from the comments: I remember Kerry surrounding himself with 'veterans' testifying to war crimes, many of those 'veterans' never spent a day wearing Uncle's suit. Others never served a tour in the Southeast Asian War Games, he reported their ravings as fact. Yea - America has one last chance to piss on it's Vietnam vets this fall. Posted by Greyhawk / August 20, 2004 6:18 PM | Permalink 20 TrackBacksGreyhawk at the Mudville Gazette, one of my every-day reads, ... There's more. Go read the whole thing. You owe it to the men and women whose names are on The Wall. Read More With the release of their latest commercial the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth are shifting their focus to a subject that should have been their primary focus to start with.John Kerry’s hateful self-serving 1971 congressional testimony. Read More Ouch. The newest salvo from the Swift Boat Veterans is absolutely devastating to John Kerry. John Kerry was free to exercise his right to Free Speech in 1971 before Congress and the American people. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth... Read More The new SwiftVets ad, entitled "Sellout," is now available (Windows media version). Its focus is on young Kerry's 1971 testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and it intersperses Kerry's own sonorous, condemning voice with reactions from f... Read More And I believe that this says a lot about the REAL John Kerry. In his own fucking words. Only... Read More Amazingly, CNN.com actually mentions the new Swift Boat Veterans For Truth ad, less than 24 hours after Greyhawk posted about it. ... Read More CNN reports that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have released a new TV ad: If you liked the original, you'll love "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth 2," the new TV ad released this morning that responds to enemy fire the Read More Oh man, is this going to hurt the lefties...and leave a mark. Go to Mudville right now and check out Greyhawk's post about the new ad against John Kerry featuring his own damning testimony and the effect it had on Read More So yesterday, Kerry slams the Swifties. Result: The media swarms over his comments, as evidenced by the 900-point jump on the Swift Boat Meter. Today, he's decided to file a FEC complaint against Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and the... Read More Greyhawk has a link to the truly devestating new commercial by the Swiftboat Vets. This commercial doesn't rely on what anyone saw in the middle of a war zone. It shows footage of John Kerry testifying before Congress - shows... Read More Posted over at Mudville Gazette: The New Swift Boat Ad The New Swift Boat Ad Is here. And be sure to visit the Swift's site. Update: Some Mudville readers might recognize Paul Galanti in the commercial above. For those who Read More I just heard on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show that the Kerry Campaign is filing suit with the Federal Election Commission over the anti-Kerry assertions made by the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth, including this devastating ad. The campaign is claiming that Read More Mudville Gazette may be the milblog with the best coverage of Kerry's Swift Boat flap. I liked this bit:This remark gets relocated to the main post from the comments:I remember Kerry surrounding himself with 'veterans' testifying to war crimes, many... Read More Paging Will Warren! Read More The Kerry Grill - where news about John Kerry and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is seared - seared! - into your memory The other shoe has dropped. Kerry's war hero status was somewhat questionable. But the other shoe was his vitriolic anti-war acti... Read More You and I get to find out about John Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony admitting war crimes (on behalf of others, of course) by clicking links and reading news articles over our Non-fat triple lattes. Paul Galanti (the guy in the... Read More You and I get to find out about John Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony admitting war crimes (on behalf of others, of course) by clicking links and reading news articles over our Non-fat triple lattes. Paul Galanti (the guy in the... Read More You can use my cartoons wherever you like, as long as you don't alter them, and that you do give me credit. Also, you may host the cartoon yourself, as long as you link to this blog near wherever... Read More There is so much blog coverage that I'll just point you to a few must-read sites and throw in a few random thots. Do not miss this from Greyawk, or this from Blackfive. Seems to me that Kerry painted himself... Read More There is so much blog coverage that I'll just point you to a few must-read sites and throw in a few random thots. Do not miss this from Greyawk, or this from Blackfive. Seems to me that Kerry painted himself... Read More 49 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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Wow!
Very informative. I'll send you a trackback in a few minutes.
Maybe the president should say something like -where was I in 1971? Not in front of the congress slandering fellow vets.
Kerry has this coming to him. He has been flying his 4 months in Vietnam up the flag pole for the the last 35 years. I'm just AMAZED that his military service would be the major theme of his campaign. Then again, the dems also realize that they MUST appear tough on terror to win. They're in a tough spot. Kerry is just the wrong candidate at the wrong time.
Kerry should answer these accusations directly. His pathetic whining about a repub attack machine makes him look like a weenie. Its the typical dem strategy...refuse to answer criticisms and attack the integrity of the accusers. Well, either John Kerry or 250 swift boat veterans are lying. Take your pick. Kerry's refusal to release his records could end this one way or the other. My guess is a release will completely destroy Kerry.
If Kerry can't even handle the heat from 250 vets how can we trust him to stand up to the Islamofacsists? The liberals who controll Big Media may save him from this mess with partisan reporting and the withholding of information but, they won't be able to protect him on the international stage.
Kerry is a horrible candidate. Unlikeable, elitist, beholden to Old Europe. There is plenty not to like about the present administration and the dems, by nominating this self aggrandizing snob will fail to capitalize. Bush is definitely beatable, but not by Kerry.
Big Daddy T
Within five minutes of seeing the ad on the website I put a stamped envelope with a $100 check for the swiftvets in the mailbox.
Outstanding. Galanti, Cordier, Johnny "Splash" McCain -- those are the real heroes. Not Kerry, the perpetual opportunist.
Devastated by his own words!
It will be interesting to see how the NY Times and Washington Post try to do damage control for Kerry on this new ad.
Great post. I can't imagine what Kerry will say about this one...what is there to say?
Oh, yeah, how about "I'm sorry."?
The United States Military Code of Conduct
Article IV
If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.
Article V
When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.
As an officer, Kerry would have had this drilled into his head. He makes a big deal of his work for missing POW's after the war.
But didn't have the honor to support POW's while they were actually being tortured.
I have been to six sites looking for the new swift boat ad. Yours is the only site I found that was not hacked with irritating music so you could not hear the ad. I listened on your site- it is devestating.
BP
James, Sidney Schanberg is also taking issue with Kerry's POW work.
There's a Village Voice piece he's got out from several months ago that just disassembles Kerry. IIRC McCain doesn't come off too well either.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0408/schanberg.php
Don't know if the illustration is still on the page, but it was H A R S H.
Kerry wasn't saying that - he was saying that other people said that about the veterans. The lying swifties strike out again!
Dr Steve,
Thank you for the referral to the Village Voice article. It is so out of character for that rag to print anything this truthful against any democrat that I was shocked, shocked to read it.
I have passed it on to a few of my friends who are always on the lookout for info like this.
Let us hope that this kind of info gets out to the general public so that we can insure that this POS never gets into the White House except by invitation. The idea of a Kennedy/Kerry presidency, which is what it would be, is just too horrible to comtemplate.
I remember Kerry surrounding himself with 'veterans' testifying to war crimes, many of those 'veterans' never spent a day wearing Uncle's suit. Others never served a tour in the Southeast Asian War Games, he reported their ravings as fact.
As each of my children went through school I'd have to deal with Mr. Kerry's slander again. That's bad enough, what about the children of the young men who came home in those shiny aluminum caskets? Who told them that Daddy wasn't a rapist? Who told them that Kerry deliberately lied while under oath? One of my sergeants was killed trying to get a batch of children out of the line of fire in some little ville I never knew the name of. According to Kerry that man was a murderer. His children would have been in their early teens in 1971. I wonder how they took that 'testimony'?
I don't need the Swiftee's ad to know that John Kerry is scum. I've lived for thirty-five years with the memory of a lot of fine young men who served with honor and dignity and never grew old. John Kerry may just as well gone to each of those 58,000 graves, called a press conference at each one and when the cameras got rolling, pissed on them.
I saw my first combat death in May of '65. There isn't a month that goes by when one of those still-young men doesn't visit me in my sleep. None of them would forgive me if I were to support that lying sack of shit. I owe them this.
Peter,
This has been called the last battle of VN. I think the vets are going to even the score.
when Kerry testified about atrocities and war crimes he was either lying or telling the truth. If he was telling the truth let him stand up and face the SwiftVets. If he was lying he is not only repsonsible for betraying his former comrades he may also be guilty of more.
Perhaps some college students heard or read his fraudulent testimony. Maybe they believed him. Maybe this chenged their opinion on the war. Maybe they felt it necessary to join in the anti-war protests. Maybe they attended Kent State. Maybe they never got the chance to graduate. Far fetched? Maybe. Impossible? I think not.
Kerry needs to answer for what he said. If the press tries to give him another pass we need to demand those answers.
Were it anyone but Kerry at the head of the Democrats ticket, none of us would be involved. I am because I know that Kerry is a liar and a Communist tool. I served '61-'67 in the US Navy and did three West-Pac tours off the beach on a LPH. They did not revoke, and I have not recinded, the oath I took "... to protect and defend ... foreign and domestic ...".
Kerry is a domestic enemy.
As long as SwiftVets keeps going with the truth, I'll keep adding my paltry contributions to the pot, along with hundreds of other Vets who know the truth about Traitor John Kerry.
What I find astonishing is that Kerry clearly wasn't prepared for this. What's wrong with the man?
Even if he'd managed to convince himself that his medals were untouchable, Kerry had to know that his Kambodia Kaper lie might come out, yet it's obvious from the floundering nature of the response that neither the Kandidate nor anyone in his Kampaign had given it a moment's thought.
And surely--I mean, surely--either Kerry or someone in the Kampaign had to expect that the VVAW and Winter Soldier stuff would become an issue. But it's equally clear that they never planned for this either. I mean, sending in the lawyers, then pressuring the publisher of the book, then filing an FEC complaint? Geez. That just guarantees more publicity for the charges and makes Kerry look like a whining wimp--again.
It also makes it look like he can't answer the charges, so he has to try to suppress them.
I'll admit that I was wary of the Swift Vets. Even if their charges were true, I figured they'd be unprovable, and the media would spin the whole thing to look bad for Bush.
Now I think I was wrong. Kerry is very frightened, that much is obvious. Is he simply afraid that the Cambodia thing or the accusations over Winter Soldier will continue to gain traction? As I said, Kerry's actions will probably help gain publicity for the charges.
So does Kerry know that something else is coming, and is that what he's trying so desperately to suppress?
Kerry is the one that placed so much stock in his military service that it should overshadow his nearly 20 years of *ahem* "service" in the Senate. He is the one that shined the spotlight on that service and in that light we now see the rats in the corners. The rats that are trying to scamper away from the light are of his own rearing. He fed and nurtured them with his documented hatred of the military, of men he served with n Vietnam. Now the big cats in the neighborhood are just going after those rats.
Kerry is stupid if he expected less.
The story above about McCain and Kerry's handling of the POW issue was the real motivation for the negative ads run against McCain in the 2000 campaign. Many vets felt they swept the issue under the rug to speed normalization with V.
Larry
swift boats vet are a bunch of bitter old vet that need to get a life.they are doing so to be on tv
Kerry wasn't saying that - he was saying that other people said that about the veterans. The lying swifties strike out again!
Umm, No. If you REPEAT slanderous allegations in public, you're on the hook.
Kerry was/is an opportunist.
When it was politically to his advantage to slander his fellow sailors and soldiers as war criminals, he did it.
When it was politically to his advantage to stand up on that stage, and salute us with his "band of brothers", he did it.
The man is all things to all people. He has no core, he has no code. He is not worthy of leading the free world.
The Swift Boat Veterans tried to warn the Democrats not to nominate Kerry, but they were ignored.
I told all of my Democratic friends not to vote for him in the primaries or they would regret it.
They should have nominated Howard Dean. He was very consistent in his positions and represented what most Democrats really feel.
Instead, they've got a nominee who's taken both sides of nearly every major issue in this campaign, and who alienated millions of Veterans with his slanderous allegations that turned the country against them.
And just wait until people see the picture of Kerry that hangs in the Ho Chi Minh museum for his role in helping them win the war.
So a man regarded by the North Vietnamese as a war hero for their side is the Democratic nominee for the presidency of the United States. It's just staggering.
sandra brown,
Here is one old vet (Tonkin Bay Yacht Club - '66) who has a life.
And for the time being it is devoted to destroying Johnny the K. Seems to be working. ;-)
A LOT of us OFs are really enjoying this. I got the Doors on, my incense is burning, I got a Heinikins in my hand and Double strength Navy coffee in my Navy Cup (my First Mate bought it for me). Life is very good.
Kerry was either
1. A communist dupe
2. A communist agent
In the course of this campaign it is all going to come out. I hear the new ad has attracted over 1/2 million to the swifties campaign in only a day! The little people are out there and we will be heard. And because it is the truth our voice will be louder in a whisper than George Soros can generate with a $25 million megaphone. How is that for operating in a target rich environment?
INCOMING
Do you know how John Kerry got a piece of shrapnel buried in his leg?
You don't?
That is all right. Neither does John.
What is the War Hero Afraid of?
Form 180. Release ALL the records.
And for the French among you now is the time: sauve qui peut
M Simon sez:
"A LOT of us OFs are really enjoying this. I got the Doors on, my incense is burning, I got a Heinikins in my hand and Double strength Navy coffee in my Navy Cup (my First Mate bought it for me). Life is very good."
I all I can say is "hahahaha!" Time to go over and donate more money to the Swiftee's. Bravo Zulu guys! You got J F'in K on the run..keep it up. :)
Thank you for keeping us abreast of these events.
I hope the the truth becomes household knowledge soon.
Patti
M Simon, Thank you for your service and thanks to any others here who served as well.
Sandra Brown, you sound like a bitter crank who is realizing that her "golden boy" is just a brick that was rattled-canned with gold paint that is starting to flake off.
Sandra Brown is sure to reject my testimony because of my chosen nicknonymity, but I first met M Simon over 20 years ago and he already had a life then. I've met his First Mate, and his oldest son as an infant, and I've socialized with him outside of the contexts of mutual friends and computer geekery which brought us together. I saw no sign of bitterness in him; not over the war and not over run of the mill slings and arrows.
To Ms. Brown: No, they are not "bitter old vets" - these are men who, unlike you, were called up and faced a damn difficult decision: to go where their country told them to go and muck in the mud, or run away and hide. They gave up their lives at home (such as where you are comfortably sitting right this minute) and went off and did a really dirty job, whether they agreed with it or not. Unlike you, some of them rotted in a stink-hole prison for YEARS. The Vietnam era was a terrible time in our country for all of us. Kerry was a world class fool to bring this all up again - there isn't a person alive, man or woman, who lived during those years who wasn't touched in some way by that war. Kerry embodies EVERYTHING ugly about the radical lefties and none of what can be good about the Democratic party. He is a disgrace and it is wonderful that ordinary US citizens such as the SwiftBoat vets have the internet as a forum to speak because the mainstream press would never have given them this opportunity. I applaud each and every one of these vets because I, as a woman, worked with the USO at Ft. Lewis, Washington in those days and wonder still how many of the young men I met never came back. Way to go men! We women are proud of you!
The amazing thing is the Veterans ads are working. I just read that 33 percent of Americans saw the ads and that about 50 percent know about the ads.
Kerry has lost a lot of support amongst the Veterans, the same poll showed.
Keep up the good work. Keep those ads coming, keep donating.
related cartoon here
Bitter old vets, huh? You ain't _seen_ bitter yet. This is just raw disgust for a poseur moving toward bitter. As an Era vet (USAF 65-66) who never got within 1000 miles of action, and who was invalided out and then entered college, I had friends and acquiantances who volunteered to go and did their duty, others who didn't want to go but did an did their duty, some wounded, some with amputations, some died. John Kerry came back and spit all over them. Some of his spittle contaminated every one of us as vets, whether we had been in-country or not. Just for doing our duty as we variously saw it. John Kerry didn't know all of us. Didn't know any of our stories. Built his reputation on us.
Bitter? Can't imagine why. (And probably neither can Mr. Phony Bring-It-On Kerry.)
sandra brown: swift boats vet are a bunch of bitter old vet that need to get a life.they are doing so to be on tv
Liberals who falsely accuse our Vietnam veterans of atrocities are traitors who need to be exposed. They're on TV everyday peddling their trash.
notsofast: Kerry wasn't saying that - he was saying that other people said that about the veterans. The lying swifties strike out again!
He was doing his invisible voice act - attributing to unnamed people accusations he was making up. If he wants to clear this up, he could name the people who said these things, so we can verify the truth of what he said by talking to those people. People, especially presidential candidates, have to be responsible for what they say, especially when they are making serious allegations about an entire cohort of people - the troops who fought in Vietnam. The Swift vets are standing by what they said about Kerry - it's time that Kerry stood by what he said about the Vietnam vets - we need names and places for the atrocity stories Kerry was peddling.
Yes, I like that best "no core, no code" and might I add no honor is the best description of the former and bitter vet JOHN "waffle" KERRY.
So now we know about at least two storys that Kerry has had to backtrack on. The Cambodia incursion at Xmas time in 1968 has been proven to be a lie even though it was "seared" in him. Now we are about to hear that it was actually in Jan or Feb of 69. He will still claim that he took CIA agents, Green Berets and navy seals in that country, even though his commanding officer has denied that there were any orders to do that, in fact it would have been a courts marshal offense to do it. I guess we will have to believe that the President secretly ordered him to do it. And kind of like the old series Mission Impossible he would have been told that if he was caught or captured , the president would disawow any knowlege of his actions. Sounds plausable to me...........
Another very interesting item that has come to mind is the latest Kerry ad featuring Jim Rasmussen. He states that he was knocked overboard from Kerrys boat by the force of the explosion when a boat hits a mine. What he is doing here is trying to get you to come to the conclusion that it was Kerrys boat that was hit. We all know that it was another boat that hit the mine and that from the position of Kerry boat they were not in close proximity to the other boat. My thought on this is that Rasmussen was dumped into the water by Kerry leaving the scene when the mine went off and this is just another clever way to give Kerry cover for leaving the scene. If one remembers back to the convention Kerry and company stated tht he was the only boat to stay while the others fled. Now they admit that Kerry is the only one to flee. The stories keep changing on Kerrys side and this is a dead giveaway as to who is lying. I have just started to read the Swifties book and what little I have read so far, it is already a good reason for Kerry to try to keep the public from seeing this book.
Another very interesting item that has come to mind is the latest Kerry ad featuring Jim Rasmussen. He states that he was knocked overboard from Kerrys boat by the force of the explosion when a boat hits a mine. What he is doing here is trying to get you to come to the conclusion that it was Kerrys boat that was hit. We all know that it was another boat that hit the mine and that from the position of Kerry boat they were not in close proximity to the other boat. My thought on this is that Rasmussen was dumped into the water by Kerry leaving the scene when the mine went off and this is just another clever way to give Kerry cover for leaving the scene. If one remembers back to the convention Kerry and company stated tht he was the only boat to stay while the others fled. Now they admit that Kerry is the only one to flee. The stories keep changing on Kerrys side and this is a dead giveaway as to who is lying. I have just started to read the Swifties book and what little I have read so far, it is already a good reason for Kerry to try to keep the public from seeing this book.
Another very interesting item that has come to mind is the latest Kerry ad featuring Jim Rasmussen. He states that he was knocked overboard from Kerrys boat by the force of the explosion when a boat hits a mine. What he is doing here is trying to get you to come to the conclusion that it was Kerrys boat that was hit. We all know that it was another boat that hit the mine and that from the position of Kerry boat they were not in close proximity to the other boat. My thought on this is that Rasmussen was dumped into the water by Kerry leaving the scene when the mine went off and this is just another clever way to give Kerry cover for leaving the scene. If one remembers back to the convention Kerry and company stated tht he was the only boat to stay while the others fled. Now they admit that Kerry is the only one to flee. The stories keep changing on Kerrys side and this is a dead giveaway as to who is lying. I have just started to read the Swifties book and what little I have read so far, it is already a good reason for Kerry to try to keep the public from seeing this book.
Kerry has more than one book that he doesn't want people to see. One of which is "The New Soldier". Kerry was one of the authors, indeed he's the lead author listed on the cover. You can get it on eBay if you're willing to pay $400-500 (atleast) for a copy. More for autographed copies, of course. Go look at the pictures of the book. There's always one or two on eBay.
It's strange that most Presidential candidates who have written books have them reprinted when they run. Kerry has suppressed his book for years. What's up with that?
I was in the Navy from 67-73 and was never near Viet Nam. Some of the guys I served with had been there though. Corpsmen, brown water Navy and offshore gunfire support ships. They never bragged about it. They never threw away their decorations nor rode them to political advantage. Kerry has done all these things.
I once saw a line about him throwing his decorations over the White House fence only to have them land on his Senate office wall a few years later. It pretty much sums him up. This is someone who tries to have it both ways. It's time to put a stop to this crap.
Well, one thing for sure about Kerry - Pvt. Ryan he aint!
I'm guessing that at least some of the posters do not have a good sense of the Vietnam War--both here and over there--and thus lack a historical perspective that would explain why veterans of that war are incensed over the apparent falsities--and known slanders--committed by Mr. Kerry.
I refer these people to several items. 1) Hearts & Minds, a documentary that, in retrospect, is akin to Michael Moore's fevered efforts. An example of how the folks back home were fed a view of the war that turned out to be as fanciful as Mr. Kerry's testimony. 2) We Were Soldier Once--And Young. The book is a descriptive and thorough telling of the Ia Drang battle, and provides as sharp a description of war--and the young men who enlisted or were drafted to fight it--as one could hope for. Mel Gibsons movie captures some of the intensity--and as Hal Moore states in the DVD, finally captures the war as it was fought (at least in 1965).
Put these items together and one can get a better perspective on why a Vietnam veteran may resent someone who may have falsified or greatly exaggerated the circumstances leading to his medals and then denigrated the war that provided the opportunities to attain them--at least till now. And perhaps one can then ask how a man, in 4.5 months, can attain more medals and in a faster time period than Audie Murphy, the most decorated U.S. soldier of WWII?
Credibility is required of the Commander-In-Chief, wouldn't you say?
Great site. And God Bless the Swift Boat Veterens for Truth. Can't wait to get my copy of "unfit for command"
I hear people question John Kerry's credibility and I wonder, how many veterans out there have incomplete military records like out president's? I always thought the military kept pretty good records. How many people cannot recall what they were doing for months at time while on duty with the National Guard? What exactly does it mean when George W. Bush refuses to answer questions about his use of Cocaine based on principle? What principle is that anyway? Talk about trying to have it both ways.
If you are going to pick on Kerry for what he did or did not do while in Vietnam, look at the guy who he is running against. He wasn't even there and his father made sure of it.
I realize that many people already have their minds made up, but come on, if you are going to take a critical view of Kerry, you must apply the same eye to the President.
I'm a 100% disabled Army Vet from the Vietnam era, but obtained my injury in an accident due to faulty equipment in Germany.
My best friend is a two-tour Special Forces "A-team" Vet who served in Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. He fought alonside the Montanyards who were friendly with the Americans.
My brother was a one-tour Army draftee at Pleiku and Ben Het in the central highlands of Vietnam on a mobile 105 howitzer.
I answered a want ad yesterday for some used furniture and met a Marine who served two tours in
Vietnam in a "recon" unit.
All four of us hate John (Hanoi) Kerry
This totals 3 Vietnam Vets all with heavy combat experience, and one Vietnam era Vet who all feel that John Kerry violated his country and demoralized fellow Soldiers and Vets during his anti-war days. The credibility of his medals is certainly in question, but could be resolved with his signature on form 180. You can bet he has personal/political reasons for not signing that form. This particular form would show where he was during the reciept of the medals, as well as the nature of his injuries for the three Purple Hearts.
All of us are very appreciative of the courage of the Swift Boat Vets who's efforts have left Kerry in a state of total confusion with only two months before election.
There are about 26 million Vets still alive in this country and more to come. A dishonest, and possibly a traitor is not a person who any of us feel is qualified to be Commander in Chief.
Thanks everyone for enlightening me on this man who got a splinter in his whatever..somebody needs to pull the plank out of his butt and paint a yellow stripe down his back....I was a kid in elementary school when Galanti was released, I can't tell you the feeling I had when he spoke at my elementary school at that time. My cousin served in the army (special forces) got his head all messed up and doesn't get a dime of disability, my dad fought in Korea (Army Indian Head Division)had the bones blown out of his arm and lost the majority of use in it, suffered nightmares from sleeping endless nights in foxholes and only drew 40% disability KERRY GOT A SPLINTER....AND THEY WANT TO MAKE HIM PRESIDENT! IT MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE!!! COME ON PEOPLE WAKE UP.
HEY AND BY THE WAY THANKS TO ALL THE VETERANS WHO TRULY AND BRAVELY SERVED OUR COUNTRY...IT IS A DEED THAT CAN TRULY NEVER BE REPAID..THANKS FOR DEFENDING OUR FREEDOM AND THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS NO MATTER WHAT WAR YOU FOUGHT IN!
Not one person who signed the swift vote veterans against Kerry served on his boat. Not one. All but one of Kerry's crew members back him. The only reason this is even an issue is because the republicans do not have one issue to run on for themselves. Not education, not the environment, not health care, not social security, not national safety, or the war in Iraq or the war on terrorism. Why are there more cops and soldiers in NYC today than in Afganistan? Keep on talking about Vietnam people. Keep drinking the elixer. Judging from what you guys are writing, when W is re-elected, we will be getting just what we deserve
John - timely comment. Thanks, three weeks ago a few people were still clinging to that "not on same boat" bit.
One was on the same boat, the others were his peers, doctor, etc.
Mlitary people understand this on a very deep level. And civilians know what "served together" means.
Kerry is scum - and is despised by vets of all generations. Unfit for anything other than Democrat candidate for President - a job he bought with his wifes cash.
That his old comrades torpedoed him for 150k must truly be killing his lord and master, George Soros.
If you hate Bush, vote Nader, but don't piss on the graves of the fallen from Vietnam.