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Greetings! You are reading an article from The Mudville Gazette. To reach the front page, with all the latest news and views, click the logo above or "main" below. Thanks for stopping by! August 18, 2004 Fractures?By GreyhawkThe Kerry campaign is beginning some tentative direct return fire in response to attacks from his fellow Swift vets. And a major daily has the story. The Washington Times reports: Sen. John Kerry's campaign said yesterday that the Democratic presidential nominee is not hiding any of his war records and has, in fact, released them all to the public. Of course, those familiar with the story are well aware that the medical records - those that Kerry's fellow vets claim would reveal the real truth about his early ticket home from Vietnam - are not available and have not been released. But later in the Times story comes an interesting quote from Jim Rassmann: "There's no evidence that the president did not serve honestly and well. And until that shows up, if in fact it's true, let's leave it alone," Mr. Rassmann said. "But by the same token, no one has shown any kind of evidence that John did not perform honorably and well, and by the same token, let's leave that alone as well." But President Bush, of course, didn't reach down into a river and pull Mr Rassman onto an Iowa stage, thus making his military record the centerpiece of his campaign. Bush's record, like Kerry's, was brought into play by Democrats. (And poured over by the press.) Still later, a quote from Del Sandusky might give insight into why the Kerry campaign has allegedly discouraged the troops he abandoned in Vietnam from speaking directly to the press: Also, Mr. Kerry has been asked recently whether he was being "honest" when he said he spent Christmas 1968 under fire in Cambodia ? a memory he said was "seared in me." Perhaps that's so, but the idea that any US veteran didn't know it was Christmas when he was serving away from home is rather far fetched - to be kind - and John Kerry saying otherwise doesn't make it so. (Though we can't fault Mr Sandusky's loyalty to his superior.) Kerry however, certainly has no fear of sailing into hostile waters today; his appearance before the Veterans of Foreign Wars aptly demonstrates that. His speech, interrupted occasionally and briefly by polite applause at the designated locations, probably evoked the same images in the minds of those who were there in person as in mine as I watched on TV from Europe. As he spoke of not breaking faith with those who are serving or had served in the past, as he casually dismissed his post-Vietnam actions, surely many civilians gained that warm fuzzy "I support the troops" feeling. But 90 percent of GIs past present and future heard that speech, and likely saw it too, with these unforgettable images in mind (seared into their memory, if you will): "They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Ghengis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country." ![]() "As President, I will stand with you to complete that mission. The sacrifices that you have made on the battlefield are well known. But what is not as well known is how hard we have fought after we returned from service to keep faith with our fellow soldiers." Posted by Greyhawk / August 18, 2004 5:36 PM | Permalink 1 TrackBackMudville Gazette Then: "They told stories that at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot... Read More 5 Comments |
November 26, 2010America@war [Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit. That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary. From their about page:
"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation: The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism. Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented. I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are. "Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result. Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web... And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed. The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down. But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:
Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down. If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real. And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale. We've already made history, it's time to save it. (More to follow...) Posted 4:02 PM | Permalink |
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"But by the same token, no one has shown any kind of evidence that John did not perform honorably and well, and by the same token, let's leave that alone as well."
Aren't eye witness accounts normally admissable as evidence?
Swift Boat Ad Working
Joshua Micah Marshall reluctantly reports:
Perhaps the most astonishing demonstration of the Swift Boat ad’s effectiveness, however, is the proportion of potential Kerry voters whose opinions shifted after having watched the ad. Independents intending to vote for Kerry felt considerably less sure of their choice after watching the Swift Boat ad.
Before the ad, 41.94% of Independents intending to vote for Kerry felt that they would “definitely” vote for him; 37.10% felt “most likely” to vote for him; 20.97% were “leaning” towards him; and none were “not sure.”
These levels of commitment changed markedly after viewing the Swift Boat ad. Independents “definitely” voting for Kerry dropped to 29.03%. Those “most likely” to vote for him were relatively unchanged at 33.87%. Those “leaning” towards Kerry dropped to 9.68%. Finally, Independents “not sure” of their initial choice of Kerry increased substantially to 27.42%. This substantial change attests to the effectiveness of the Swift Boat ad’s attacks.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_08_08.php#003266
THE VIETNAM VETS HAVE ONLY JUST BEGUN TO FIGHT.
FIRST - THE VIETNAM VETS AGAINST KERRY SERENADED HIM BEFORE HIS ACCEPTANCE SPEACH WITH
"KERRY LIED AND GOOD MEN DIED".
- I KNOW THOSE WORDS RANG IN HIS EARS AS HE MADE MIS WOODEN ACCEPTANCE SPEACH.
SECOND - THE SWIFT BOAT VETS BOOK GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION
THIRD - THE SWIFT BOAT VETS TV AD IS ACTUALLY WORKING.
THE FOURTH AND FINAL BLOW WILL COME ON SEPTEMBER TWELFTH IN WASHINGTON DC WHEN THOUSANDS OF VIETNAM VETS DEMONSTRATE AGAINST HIM AND SHOUT AT THE TOP OF THEIR LUNGS -
KERRY LIED AND GOOD MEN DIED.
THIS WILL BE THE YEAR WHEN THE DEMOCRATS FINALLY REALIZE THE MISTAKE THEY MADE BY FORCING THE PULLOUT OF VIETNAM DISHONORING THE BEST PART OF MY GENERATION WHILE ABANDONING OUR ARVN ALLIES.
IT WILL...
http://pep.typepad.com/public_enquiry_project/2004/08/swift_boat_ad_w.html
Below is the link to Sydney Schanberg's Feb 24, 2004 story in the Village Voice (not exactly part of the VRWC) regarding Senator Kerry's later affiliations with other Vietnam veterans:
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0408/schanberg.php
Everything about John Kerry's public career has been garnered on the backs of other Vietnam Veterans, trampled by a "brother" who didn't want to dirty his own boots. John Kerry is an arrogant dilletant, a faithless fabricator, and in this vet's humble opinion, Unfit for Command.
I have never served in the military so I was never in a war. If I had, I think I would remember it well. If I had spent a christmas in a war zone, away from my loved ones....well, that would be seared, seared in my memory.
Kerry's Cambodia story doesn't pass the bull shit test. Even from me, and I have recently suffered a severely strained credulity.
Eleanor Clift hints at why the left wing of the Democratic Party...
Newsweek ^ | 8/19/04 | Eleanor Clift
Kerry needs to win over swing voters. But getting inside their heads may be as much a job for a therapist as a campaign consultant
By Eleanor Clift Newsweek
Updated: 7:25 p.m. ET Aug. 13, 2004
Aug. 13 - John Kerry disappointed a lot of Democrats when he said that he would have voted for the resolution that gave George W. Bush the authority to invade Iraq even had Kerry known then what he knows now—that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and no ties to Al Qaeda. What then would be the grounds for war? That Saddam Hussein was a despicable human being...
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5698295/site/newsweek
Eleanor Clift hints at why the left wing of the Democratic Party still loves John Kerry even as he “moves to the center.”
Some LeftWingNuts are smart enough to realize that Kerry, in his soul, is an anti-war socialist, just like them, who’s lying just to get elected. But, all LeftWingNuts are totally in awe that he was actually brave enough to even join the Navy much less go to Vietnam and fight for America.
These Sitzpinklers have no appreciation of Kerry’s historically correct view of war as the grandest of all stages for the politically ambitious. Kerry is not historically unique in the hilariously theatrical approach he took during the few months he was in Vietnam.
By contrast, no proud LeftWingNut would ever put himself in a position where there is the slightest possibility that he might get his ponytail singed.
Simply put, all LeftWingNuts are so awed by his
http://pep.typepad.com/public_enquiry_project/2004/08/eleanor_clift_h_1.html