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August 16, 2004

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More Outrage

By Greyhawk

This sort of story is becoming increasingly common:

Sgt. Peter Damon, who lost his right arm and left hand in Iraq, never set out to be a bit player in presidential politics and is furious at Michael Moore for making him one in "Fahrenheit 9/11."

"It ticked me off," Damon said of the 10-second clip in the Bush-bashing documentary that shows him being treated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington.

"I just feel it was wrong and I was violated in some way, seeing myself up there on the screen," said Damon, 31, of Brockton, Mass.

"I think [Moore] should be ashamed of himself," added Damon, who was severely injured in October in Balad, about 50 miles north of Baghdad, when a tire on a Black Hawk helicopter exploded as he was changing it. The blast killed Pfc. Paul Bueche, 19, of Daphne, Ala.

Damon said he has no regrets about his service with the Army National Guard or doubts about the U.S. mission in Iraq and resents his unwanted link with a film offering a contrary view.

"I'd like to go to the Republican National Convention and speak out about it," Damon said. "I agree with the President 100%. A lot of the guys down at Walter Reed feel the same way."

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Joanne Doroshow, associate producer of "Fahrenheit," said, "Anybody who has seen the film knows we have nothing but the deepest respect for the soldiers who were wounded. One of the purposes of the movie was to examine the impossible situation they were put into and to raise questions about why they were sent there."

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Lt. Col. Chester Buckenmaier, the anesthesiologist who treated Damon at the 21st Combat Support Hospital in Iraq and later at Walter Reed, said he also was angered at the Moore film after he took Damon to see it in Bethesda, Md.

"I was appalled. This was Joseph Goebbels-type propaganda," Buckenmaier said, referring to the Nazi propaganda chief.

Moore took "a very positive thing we're doing for soldiers" who lost limbs and "used it to tell a lie," Buckenmaier said.

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Both Damon and Buckenmaier said they were most incensed at what they felt was the depiction of soldiers as naive, underclass "children" forced to pay in blood for the geostrategic whims of callous politicians.

"The whole movie makes soldiers look like a bunch of idiots," Damon said. "I'm not a child. We sent ourselves over there" as volunteers for a cause, he said. "It was all our own doing. I don't appreciate him calling us children."


Read the whole thing - and check the picture of Sgt Damon in the linked story too. Look into the eyes of a hero.

It's worth remembering that Moore, the standard bearer for the 21st century Democratic Party, originated the 'Democrats are war heroes/Bush was AWOL' theme - although his original vision was of someone slightly higher ranking than a Swift boat commander. Terry McAuliffe's adaptation ocurred later.

Not content with merely using GI's as unwitting props in his film, the Moore camp will likely begin a campaign to either get the movie shown on military installations or gain a bit more free publicity for the fact that it won't be:

It's been hard to go more than a few days without hearing the name Michael Moore this summer, and in some places "Fahrenheit 9/11" might still be too hot to touch. As of Friday word came that the film won't be shown at any Army bases, with distributors and military officials pointing fingers at each other.

The Army and Air Force Exchange Service, the group that books flicks for military base theaters, said the decision had nothing to do with content and was based purely on financial considerations. Spokesman Judd Anstey said distributors did not make the group aware of the film's availability until it had booked movies through Sept. 3. With the DVD reportedly coming out a month later, Anstey said "for films screened within that type of time frame, the box office is marginal."

A spokeswoman for Lions Gate, one of the film's distributors, countered that "we have made all requested materials available to them, but unfortunately a commitment to show the film has not been made." A spokesman for Fellowship Adventure Group, another distributor of "Fahrenheit 9/11," went on to say that no official DVD release date has been given, and suggested that there were more obvious political motivations for not screening the film.

It occurs to me that a travelling presentation of the film, along with personal appearances by the many soldiers Moore used, would be of great benefit not just on military installations but for all of America.

Barring that, it seems some intrepid film maker looking to set the record straight could make quite an impressive series of on-camera interviews with these guys:

Soldiers in Iraq

The surviving family of Major Greg Stone, USAF

SSG Roy Mitchell and Spc Joe Roche, USA; Australian filmmaker George Gittoes and the GI's in his film, USA

Even more soldiers in Iraq

And probably the entire US Marine Corps

Or you can just "direct" any Moore fans you know right here.


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Idiot Soldiers from fredschoeneman.com on August 17, 2004 4:46 PM

Greyhawk has an excellent roundup of some of the people -- soldiers and civilian -- that Michael Moore quoted out of context for his film. Take a look, use it as a resource. Decide for yourself if Moore actually gives... Read More

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I'm not just being contrarian here, when I say that Michael Moore and the Democratic Party's endorsement of him (McAuliffe's statements, his seating next to Carter at the convention) are radicalizing many against John Kerry. Which is too bad. I would have liked to see an election based on real issues instead of the size of Kerry's "combat penis."

Moore isn't going to change peoples' minds. All he's going to do is encourage the "democratic" wing of the democratic party further off the ledge, and make sure Republicans vote against Kerry.

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I have never been so insulted and outraged in my life as I am with Maggot Moore, his so-called films and books and the way he has disseminated his propaganda materials to our deployed troops. Let me explain. Moore's sole purpose in releasing 'fahrenhate 911' this year is an attempt to defeat the re-election of our President and defame the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Moore's website refers his fans to another "soldier support" website where they obtain soldiers' addresses and mailing information. In addition, Moore supplies the website owner with Moore's films and books to send out to soldiers. Supposedly, the materials are sent only to soldiers who request them; however, it has been documented by at least one commanding officer that his soldiers have received Moore's materials unsolicited. I myself was sending supportive e-mails to an Army SGT who one day responded that he had just seen 'F911' and believed the horrific allegations made of his CIC.

The effect of Moore-on's campaign to infect the minds of our soldiers has been a serious and devastating blow to morale in some cases. I would never have imagined that anyone would sink this low just in an attempt to usurp an administration that has been strong and effective in fighting the War on Jihadistan and to put into power a party that has shown no will to fight on behalf of this Great Nation.

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America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004