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July 29, 2004

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The analogy is flawless. Sen. Kennedy began by quoting, "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself." The current administration has done a good job of stoking fear in the general public: e.g., (1) raising threat levels based on vague generalities (some fundamentalists are planning to attack somewhere, sometime, somehow); and, (2) looking at ways to postpone the elections in case of a terrorist attack (interestingly, this seems to be a form of "preemptive negotiations" with terrorists).
Thus, the logic is flawless: the only thing we have to fear is fear itself, the Bush administration promotes fear in the American public, ergo - we should fear four more years.

Sure JC sure. It`s all Bushes fault. He`s the one who was appeasing the terrorists for the last 8 years BEFORE he came into office. He`s the one who told them to attack the WTC. And it`s his fault that terrorist don`t like the USA.
Everybody knows that they used to go out of their way to make us happy until Bush got into office.
What a retard you are.

Alas, a retard I must be - I somehow led you to believe I was blaming Bush for terrorism. Nevertheless, I didn't mean to blame the Bush administration for anything other than promoting a climate of fear in our country - not a fear premised on tangibles, rather a fear promoting political ends. Riddle me these two things Batwoman: (1) what the hell are you ranting about - the logic of what I wrote was tight - Bush is causing some fear, not all, but some; (2) justify the administration's discourse regarding postponing elections.
I challenge you to respond with some thought and not some boring, right-washed diatribe.
Cheers...the Retard.

If all we have to fear is whoever our next president is, then obviously the war on terror has been a great success.

Is that what the Tedster was trying to say? I heard he was a bit tipsy that night.

So tell me JC..on your points, isn't this a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't?

If DHS doesn't put out information or warnings based the intel and something happens, who'll be the first one to scream about it?

If a plan isn't put in place if an attack occurs during the elections, who'll be the first one to scream about that?

Sorry, but after what happened in Spain, it's better to be prepared and have a plan in place, then to expect that nothing is going to happen and the worst comes to pass.

Teddy drunk? Probably in honor of Mary Jo Kopechne's birthday - 26 July 1940.

She'd be 64 if he hadn't killed her.

JC
You use your first comment to posture that these threat level announcements are designed to instill fear in the populace. That premiss is false. I don`t know of anyone who gets even mildly afraid when threat levels go up but I do know people who pay better attention to their surroundings in their day to day activities and that, after all, is the whole point of these exercises.
Frankly, I want to know when undesirables are plotting mischief, even if it is only a possibility and not a certainty. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that nothing bad can happen because you`re a "good guy" then, by all means go ahead but at least allow me the freedom to be prepared.
As to your second question: Talk is cheap, as you well know, and that`s all it was. Perhaps you`ve never heard of a thing called a contingency plan?
What if?
Say that terrorist DID attack 1 or 2 days before elections. What would your back up plan be?
Think about it.

Well - The administration could plan for alternative means of HOLDING the elections, thereby not caving into the terrorist's intended objective of disrupting our govermental processes. So in answer - Yes, I agree a plan should be in place; no, I don't believe the plan's first action should call for postponing elections. An alternative example might invlove placing federal and state assets on standby and preparing them to effectuate the election process. If NY is the sight of the attack, there is no reason the other 49 states shouldn't hold elections.
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Head in the sand? I'm afraid to inform you that undesireables plot against the US 24/7. I know that. Most of the US knows it. But, apparently, you need a FOX News report to know.

BTW - My position is not based on the fact that I think I'm a good guy/gal (although I am). Rather, it's based on a belief in efficient use of national security resources within constitutional boundaries.

Hey - a nuke detonated in NYC would only lower the number of Dems, so continuing with elections in spite of it would only benefit the Repubs. On the other hand a delay would allow Mike Moore time to make a movie blaming Bush and the DNC could replenish it's crackpot base.

Well JC you alternative isn`t a bad idea but the sad fact is that there is absolutely no way that something like that would pass congress until at least after the upcomming elections.
Neither party trust the other, for good reason, and the mutual back scratching won`t start until after Bush is elected again.

It seems that the administration listened. The government warnings today are more specific and allow lower level government agencies and the public in general to make informed decisions.

It's a very good site !! Very nice work, admin :) Good luck !

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November 26, 2010


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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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  • JC: It seems that the administration listened. The government warnings today read more
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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004