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July 23, 2004

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Climate of Fear

By Greyhawk

The Washington Post apparently thinks you might be wondering what Egyptians think of America:

Arab views of the United States, shaped largely by the Iraq war and a post-Sept. 11 climate of fear, have worsened in the past two years to such an extent that in Egypt -- an important ally in the region -- nearly 100 percent of the population now holds an unfavorable opinion of the country, according to two polls due out today.

Well then, I guess we're screwed.

"In 2002, the single policy issue that drove opinion was the Palestinians; now it's Iraq and America's treatment, here and abroad, of Arabs and Muslims," said James Zogby, who commissioned the report with the Arab American Institute.

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And when asked what the United States could do to improve its image in the Arab world, the most frequently provided answers were "Stop supporting Israel" and "Change your Middle East policy."

Emphasis added.


Posted by Greyhawk / July 23, 2004 3:16 PM | Permalink

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Actually what Egyptian and other nations have thought of us and "the West" in general didn't spring new born out of the ground, nor is it all about Israel and Palestine.

Views of Western "Crusaders" go back many years and the views in the Middle East are a good deal different than the West of related events.

Colonization of the region, primarily by Britain and France, but also by Italy and Germany in "recent years" (the last 100 or so) also haven't made the distinctly different culture of the West all that positive.

Comes a bunch of nut cases and radicals, the extremists who are the terrorists, not especially liked at home, but in some cases preferred to the Crusaders, and one should not be surprised that terrorists are even sheltered or protected in other ways by otherwise "law abiding" Arabs. What?!? It appears to be happening from time to time in Iraq and Palestine.

Before writing this off consider the cultural differences, the importance of what "Crusader" means, the historical animosity between the West and Middle East. Read a book on the history of Jerusalem and the role of Christians, Moslems, and Jews over several centuries. In some cases minority "other religions" were tolerated. In other cases those not forcibly ejected (from the other two groups) were massacred on a rather wholesale basis by whichever of the three happened to gain control. All three did this at one time or another.

A Christian, a Catholic Pope, is the one who called for both of the two main periods of Crusades and declared them to be "holy wars." That phrase ring any bells? The best reason for not negotiating with terrorists is the simple fact you can't. Their views are entirely different with no shared interests or values. They place no value on their captives' lives. Their understanding of Western views is even worse than a Western understanding of their views.

That's why each and every one of them must be killed and destroyed, as stated by President Bush, and as reaffirmed by the 9/11 Commission Report. We can make peace with Arab nations, but we cannot make peace with terroists. The longer they remain the more opportunity they have to recruit others.

Palestine has long been a source of recruits, for obvious reasons, and Egypt and Saudi Arabia, if only due to population size, although they each have their own distinct reasons for creating an environment where terrorism can thrive. After all, one of the original main goals, and a goal which remains, is to disrupt the present leadership of countries friendly to the hated Crusaders of the West.

Cultural differences run deep. The circumstances which brought about and followed the American Revolution are an important aspect of the cultural consciousness of most Americans. They've been with us for 200 years. Consider the strength of cultural ideas which date back 1000 years (the Crusades), 100 years (colonization), or 2000 years to the first conflicts between east and west, conflict amongst Islam, Christian, and Jews.

We all know what the Israelis and Palestinians think of each other. Since much of the West is viewed as Christian, and in some cases sympathetic to the hated Jews, it should come as no surprise that the strong cultural differences continue to produce strive and discord with Christian or Western natiions as well.

Liberals wish to cooperate and negotiate. Those ideas are excellent ones: after every single terrorist is eliminated and their extremism eradicated. They're as big a danger to Islam as they are to the West, are to Israel, are to Christians, and are to Jews. Know thy enemy and strike when necessary, including preemptive strikes. They ignore the Geneva convention and other niceties of the West when we've foolishly warred against one another in the past.

New game. New rules. Play ball. (Oops, we're already in the third inning.)

I wonder what the reaction is over in Egypt right now with the recent taking of a diplomat? It'll bear watching.

BTW Steve - interesting read!

Give Egypt's share of our foreign aid to Israel to teach Egypt not to be so ungrateful.

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November 26, 2010


America@war
[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004