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February 24, 2004

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Life's a Tale Told by an Idiot

By Greyhawk

Well, at least somes lives are.

HANAU, Germany — A soldier was sentenced Friday to six months in jail and given a bad-conduct discharge for stealing a Humvee while drunk and crashing it through a security gate, then head-butting one military cop and spitting blood into the face of another.

Pfc. Dennis C. Glick Jr., of the 19th Maintenance Company in Hanau, was acquitted on a charge that he later punctured 101 tires on Humvees, 5-ton trucks and other heavy vehicles belonging to the motor pool of 5th Battalion, 7th Air Defense Artillery at Underwood Casern.

Glick pleaded guilty — or was convicted — on five charges, including assault and destruction of government property, stemming from the Humvee incident, which occurred on May 6. The tire-stabbings happened on June 15.

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Glick, who had four months left on his three-year hitch, choked up and sniffled when he read a statement asking for mercy.

“I truly do have battles with alcohol,” he said. “I know my conduct put others in danger and damaged government property. Please let me go and let me start rebuilding my life with the help of my family and friends.”

Glick could have been sentenced to up to 12 years of confinement. He was to begin his six-month sentence Friday night at the Mannheim Confinement Facility.

According to Capt. Chris Graveline, the prosecutor and the senior defense counsel for V Corps, at about 1 a.m. on May 5 Glick took the Humvee and drove through the candy-striped gate and out of Underwood Casern. He drove about 600 meters down the road before stopping, getting out and returning to the gate.

Comments on this story are limited to military members only. Based on the Kerry Rule only military members can comment about the military.


Posted by Greyhawk / February 24, 2004 3:19 AM | Permalink

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Years ago when Reagan was president, the Military got permission to just kick guys out who were a pain in the ass. Not a lot of paperwork or judicial proceedings. We selected some people to dump from our Navy squadron. We told this one guy he was history and we were processing him out, and, in the meantime he would have to stay in the disciplinary barracks until the paperwork was done in a week or so. While in those barracks he started a fire in a garbage can. The military takes a very dim view of arson in living quarters. As I recall, he got seven years hard labor. That wins the prize for stupidity.

The only stories I can tell would relate to the behavior of my fellow airman (and myself) in Korea, drunk from too much SoJu. But we couldn't publish such stories (in their entirety) on a family blog.
Suffice it to say that "drunk and stupid" especially combined with destruction of gov't property, has always been prosecuted that I know of. This guy got off light, with only 6 months confinement.

Stealing, assault, drunk and disorderly, destruction of Government property. I'd say Glick got off pretty light with only a 6 month sentence and a Big Chicken Dinner (BCD).

You have to wonder a bit if this guy was a "problem child" and should have been shown the door sooner. There isn't anything mentioned about past offenses/UCMJ violations.

Last time I had to put the hammer down on anyone
was back in 1990 for grand theft auto, destruction of private property. He got one year in the brig and a BCD.

Bamberg Germany, 1986-1989, got Drunk many a night. The only stupid things me and my buddies ever did was get into fights.

Nothing ever major, for the most part. None of us would have even thought about stealing a vehicle from the motor pool.

My question is, Where were the guard duty fellas?

I spent 3 years in Baumholder Germany and as an MP, dealt with many soldier like PFC Glick. Falling through the fire escape holes on the sides of the barracks was an every weekend thing. The stupidest one was a poor sap out drinking with his buddies in Idar-Oberstein when one of the guys in his group got hit upside the head with a bottle. The injured soldier just wanted to go home and nurse his wounds, but the soldier that ended up getting killed went after the assailant and pulled a knife on him. The bottle thrower, trying to defend himself, took the knife away and stabbed our poor sap in the chest. He died on the table at the Krankenhaus and yours truly had to tell the deceased soldiers wife that he died. That was a rough night and the resluting trial almost kept me stuck in Germany. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

On the other hand, I had a BIG problem with hard liquor as a 19-20 year-old in Korea, on an island.

So bad that I was singled out -with maybe 5 others- for a short, blunt talk with our CO. Scared sh-tless, I stood at attention while he asked,
"Specialist, you make $265 per month, is that correct?" (Yes, Sir!)
"And club record show you've been drinking more than $220 of that every month, is that correct?"
(.....Sir, yes, Sir.)
"Do you have a problem, Specialist?" (..Yes, Sir.)
"Are you getting rid of this problem, Specialist?"
(Yes, Sir.)
Quietly, then, he asked, "Do you need any help, Son?" And I responded that I would deal with it, immediately.

I never drank again. If I can do it, Glick can do it. I've been dry for 36 years now.

There were times, when I was a commander, that I wanted to ask the airman I was having to discipline for some idiotic action if he or she actually had his/her brains *with* them when they decided what they did was a real fine idea. When it comes to stupid decisions made while drunk, there is no end to human creativity.

This fellow didn't hurt anyone, so while it seems 6 months is an extremely short time to serve for being such an idiot and destroying so much property, it's probably fair. Plus, he is now a convicted felon. That lasts forever.

oldcontroller sez:
>This fellow didn't hurt anyone, so while it
>seems 6 months is an extremely short time to
>serve for being such an idiot and destroying so
>much property, it's probably fair. Plus, he is
>now a convicted felon. That lasts forever.

The original article did state that he headbutted one of the MP's who tried to stop him after he crashed the security gate. Don't know if he broke the MP's nose or not...but getting headbutted ain't fun.

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November 26, 2010


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[Greyhawk]
I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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The Mudville Gazette is written and produced by Greyhawk, who recently retired from 24 years of active duty in the US military, but will maintain this disclaimer: Unless otherwise credited, the opinions expressed are those of the author, and nothing here is to be taken as representing the official position of or endorsement by the United States Department of Defense or any of its subordinate components.

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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004