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June 24, 2003

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DRUDGE: "I really don't care what I'm called, as long as it's not blogger."

By Greyhawk

Are we feeling a bit elitist today, Mr. 1.4 billion visits a year?


...a no-holds-barred conversation with media maven Camille Paglia and Radar editor-in-chief Maer Roshan. ...the interview...took place shortly after Drudge joined Paglia for a rare in-person lecture at Philadelphia's University of the Arts...

PAGLIA: There's something retro about your persona. It's like the pre-World War II generation of reporters?those unpretentious, working-class guys who hung around saloons and used rough language. Now they've all been replaced with these effete Ivy League elitists who swarm over the current media. Nerds?utterly dull and insipid.

DRUDGE: But you look at these tanned, blow-dried gym bunnies like Brian Williams, NBC's next anchor?all they do is read off a teleprompter, and no one has a problem calling them journalists. In the end I really don't care what I'm called, as long as it's not blogger. As Roger Ailes told me early on, you don't need a license to report. You need a license to do hair.

But wait, poor Drudge...


...is the highest-paid journalist on the Internet?earning a reported $800,000 a year, though he coyly admits to making "quite a bit" more.

Well, I suppose he wants to be called Mr. Drudge then.

Maybe he should change the name of his Blog.

Update: On the other hand, Ann Coulter apparently doesn't mind being called Blogger. Wonder if she's been called worse?


Posted by Greyhawk / June 24, 2003 10:27 PM | Permalink

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"One of us! One of us!"

Drudge - the source from whom much Blogging flows!

Interesting story, but I can understand Drudge's reluctance to be called a blogger. Or, for that matter, our reluctance to claim him as one of us.

Anything but Blogger? Surely there are other options he would find more disturbing.

I don't think you'll find many bloggers willing to call Mr Drudge to task for his remarks though. He is insulting a group that worships him, thus they no doubt will ignore this transgression and hope for no repeats. Should Drudge launch an "anti-blogging" campaign, even if through such subtle commentary, the results would spell disaster for this growing source of American free expression.

Coulter on the other hand, is someone a significant percentage of the world's bloggers could despise and disparage gleefully. Bet she gets more blog coverage, and more negative comments, then Drudge. Before she posts her first word.

Nice post Greyhawk. Sardonic yet subtly so. A great juxtaposition/contrast; I think you were aiming for that and it wasn't lost on this reader.

Okay, how about this: within the blog community all references to Drudge should henceforth be preceeded by "blogger"; to wit: "Blogger Matt Drudge reports today that...blah blah blah".

Just to yank his chain a bit, eh?

Then if he complains we can switch to something else and he'll have to live with that.

"Douchebag" comes to mind.

Heh. I just added his name to the TTLB Ecosystem. Oddly, he doesn't make the top 20 blogs.

Is Drudge actually afraid of the competition Bloggers could ultimately provide him years down the road? Does he worry he may have to do more then just link stories?

For $800,000 a year you could call me Professional Bootlicker, Pimple Removal Technician, Imperial Fry Cook or just simply Jay.

It's when you start DEMANDING respect that the sneers come. Matt runs a great site, but damn if'n that comment wasn't a bit on the snooty side.

You all are probably off - Drudge is a right wing nut job who doesn't realize there's 2,000 right-wing nut bloggers who worship him. He's probably based his opinion on some left-wing blogs he's seen. And yea, I don't see too many right wing bloggers taking offense at the comment. O'Reilly got lists compiled of people lining up to take shots at him, and he never used the word "blog" or "blogger". Cowardly of you righties since Drudge's attack was more direct. (Though I admit it was also more off-hand; his dislike of Blogs must be a part of him that he may not even be fully aware of. Like when you people slip and use the "N" word)

Guess I am among the unwashed masses that couldn't give a damn. There are a lot of blogs more interesting to me than his Drudge Report. He just doesn't interest me.

My take is that he doesn't want other media outlets characterizing his site as a blog. His site offers a select list of news stories without much commentary, contrary to the content of blogs which is mostly commentary with links to the referenced news stories.

I don't think he was trying to be insulting to bloggers. I think he was trying classify his site as news, not blog.


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November 26, 2010


America@war
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I think anyone who's ever pondered the "comment" option - once only available on blogs and bulletin boards, now ubiquitous on almost any web site - will appreciate this:
The so-called faculty of writing is not so much a faculty of writing as it is a faculty of thinking. When a man says, "I have an idea but I can't express it"; that man hasn't an idea but merely a vague feeling. If a man has a feeling of that kind, and will sit down for a half an hour and persistently try to put into writing what he feels, the probabilities are at least 90 percent that he will either be able to record it, or else realize that he has no idea at all. In either case, he will do himself a benefit.

That's wisdom from the past, captured for posterity at the US Naval Institute, shared via the web on the institute's 137th anniversary.

From their about page:

The Naval Institute shall remain

INDEPENDENT - A non-profit member association, with no government support, that does not lobby for special interests;

NON-PARTISAN - An independent, professional military association with a mission, goals and objectives that transcend political affiliations; and shall encourage

IDEAS - Through its respected journals Proceedings and Naval History, its conferences, its books and its online content, in support of those who serve.

"The Naval Institute has three core activities," among them, History and Preservation:

The Naval Institute also has recently introduced Americans at War, a living history of Americans at war in their own words and from their own experiences. These 90-second vignettes convey powerful stories of inspiration, pride, and patriotism.

Take a look at the collection, and you'll see it's not limited to accounts from those who served on ships at sea, members of the other branches are well-represented.

I'm fortunate to have met USNI's Mary Ripley, she's responsible for the institute's oral history program (and she's the daughter of the late John Ripley, whose story is told here). She also deserves much credit for their blog. ("We're not the Navy nor any government agency. Blog and comment freely.") We met at a milblog conference - Mary knew (and I would come to realize) that milbloggers are the 21st-century version of exactly what the US Naval Institute is all about. Once that light bulb came on in my head, I mentioned a vague idea for a project to her - milblogs as the 21st century oral history that they are.

"Put that in writing," she said (of course - see first paragraph above!) - and here's part of the result.

Shortly after the first tent was pitched by the American military in Iraq a wire was connected to a computer therein, and the internet was available to a generation of Americans at war - many of whom had grown up online. From that point on, at any given moment, somewhere in Iraq a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine was at a keyboard sharing the events of his or her day with the folks back home. While most would simply fire off an email, others took advantage of the (then) relatively new online blogging platforms to post their thoughts and experiences for the entire world to see. The milblog was born - and from that moment to this stories detailing everything from the most mundane aspects of camp life to intense combat action (often described within hours of the event) have been available on the web...

And et cetera - but since you're reading this on a milblog, you probably knew that. And you know that milblogs aren't just blogs written by troops at war, that many friends, family members, and supporters likewise documented their story of America at war online in near-real time, as those stories developed.

The diversity in membership of that group is broad, the one thing we all have in common is the impulse to make sense of the seemingly senseless, and communicate the tale - for each of us that impulse was strong enough to overcome whatever barriers prevent the vast majority of people from doing the same. Everyone at some point has some vague idea they believe should be shared - we were the people who, from some combination of internal and external urging, found and spent those many half hours persistently trying to write it down.

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But where will all that be in another 137 years? Or five or ten, for that matter. That's something I've asked myself since at least 2004 - when I wrote this:

Closing Blogs is nothing new. So many site's owners just give up on their own. They come and go, you know, these MilBloggers do. Like any other sort of blogger. Many post in the lonely down hours far from home, spill their guts for the world, then abandon their spots when the tour of duty is up. They have lives again somewhere in the world, and no need to share the details. So it goes.

Many are truly gone - no site left at all. "The page cannot be found." Other blogs remain, like abandoned defensive positions in shifting desert sands.

Membership in the ghost battalion has grown in the years since, and an ever growing majority of those abandoned-but-still-standing sites are vanishing. Have you checked out Lt Smash's site lately? How about Sgt Hook's? If you're a long-time milblog reader you know the first widely-read milblog from Operation Iraq Freedom and the first widely-read milblog from Afghanistan are both gone from the web. If you're a relative newcomer to this world you may never even have heard of them - or the dozens upon dozens of others who carried forth the standard they set down.

If you have a vague notion that something should be done about that, (a notion I've heard expressed more than once...) then you and I and the good folks at the US Naval Institute are in agreement. Preserving the history documented by the milbloggers is just one of the goals of the milblog project, the once-vague idea that we're now making real.

And it's a big idea, if I say so myself - too big to explain in one simple blog post, so stand by for more. Likewise, it's too big a task to be accomplished by just one person. So if you're a milblogger (and exactly what is a milblogger? is a topic for much further discussion on its own) I'm asking for your help. All I'll really need is just a little bit (maybe just one or two of those half hours...) of your time, and your willingness to tell the tale.

We've already made history, it's time to save it.

(More to follow...)




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  • James Joyner: Heh. I just added his name to the TTLB Ecosystem. read more
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Tending Distant
Fires


Far from hearth and home, watching
Cold alone but not alone
On distant shore and only wanting
Safe return and little more

What tales we'll tell
When that time comes
When tales can be told

When things grim
Seem far away
When other fires go cold

Some distant sunset, vision fading
Memories remain
And tired eyes gaze 'pon folded flags
While distant drums beat their refrain

Saluting fallen friends whose names
And youth will never fade
Here's to those on other shores,
for them live well, the price is paid

- Greyhawk,
Baghdad,
December 2004